Does anyone compete without taking Tren

[Ehren]

Frmo a prior tren experience at a low dose id have to say tren is the shit

Nice...good to hear!
What dose and how heavy were you (trying to get dose per lb info). Thx!

 

[burman]

Not to bump an old thread but if you do give it a shot, keep the dose down at first. Tren doesn't suffer idiocy AT ALL.

Me: I have a very negative response to long estered tren and the sides increase exponentially with higher dosing. Once you overdo it, with longer esters, you're living in hell for a good 3-5 weeks. I was a retard with Tren when I first used it. I came out swinging with 500mg EW, along with 700mg of Prop and 350mg Masterone....Bad move.

Shorter esters don't do this to me for some reason. I can feel the sides but they at 100x more maneagable. ALso, I would never, EVER, go over 300mg EW. In fact, 225mg is more like it. The other safety valve (so to speak) is that ACE is in and out of your system FAST! You're only looking at a couple of rough days tops, if it does effect you negatively.

I had started a cycle recently but cut it short due to dealing with other commitements right now. I was only using 225 prop and 225 Ace... Is the response as robust as a mega cycle? Certainly not. But it will help shake body fat, keep you strong as hell and do all the things we love about tren. Just to a lessor degree but also without the nasty sides.

Just re;lacement test-dose for me now.

My advice:
Start low (50 - 75mg) EOD;
Use ACE, esspecially if it's your first rodeo (don't be a retard like I was);
Pay attention to how you feel; and,
If you have ANY ANGER MANAGEMENT issues, don't use tren.

this is the absolute truth bro if you can tolerate tren at a decent dose then god bless ya cause it really can be a amazing compound but if you have sides you can tolerate or especially if your just starting out then tren Ace is a blessing and should be mandatory imo.