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Does anyone know what dose of estrogen valerate equels male estrogen replacement therapy?

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I'm thinking about a mg per day and hoping to hit 100 to 110 estradiol, this is with 612.5mg test and 2 grams primo E per week, split daily. It's been hard to find information on this, but I tolerate 110 estradiol with no sides so I'm not worried about leaning into it a little heavy.
 

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I'm thinking about a mg per day and hoping to hit 100 to 110 estradiol, this is with 612.5mg test and 2 grams primo E per week, split daily. It's been hard to find information on this, but I tolerate 110 estradiol with no sides so I'm not worried about leaning into it a little heavy.
Aren’t you in direct contact with the influencer who put this idea in your head? You got mad when we told you it wasn’t a great an idea and showed us the conversation you had with Doctor Dingus.

Just ask him ??? 🤷
 
I really thought you were trolling. 1 to 2mg daily sounds solid considering its HRT replace for females. A fertile female only has very high estrogen for a week or two out of her cycle. I dont know what the baseline level a doctor would be looking for on a postmenopausal female but I doubt its much more than 100. Starting at 1mg seems reasonable.
 
Aren’t you in direct contact with the influencer who put this idea in your head? You got mad when we told you it wasn’t a great an idea and showed us the conversation you had with Doctor Dingus.

Just ask him ??? 🤷
I'd have to pay him for a consultation
 
I really thought you were trolling. 1 to 2mg daily sounds solid considering its HRT replace for females. A fertile female only has very high estrogen for a week or two out of her cycle. I dont know what the baseline level a doctor would be looking for on a postmenopausal female but I doubt its much more than 100. Starting at 1mg seems reasonable.
I can't remember the context but in a recent video Vigorous Steve mentioned maybe running it at 1mg for himself for some reason, that's what got me set on 1mg daily
 
when people like you will understand that synthetic e2 does not provide any benefits for men because it does not come from aromatization - aromatization is actually something we need and not just additional estrogen

besides what is the point of taking 2g of primo and almost 4x less test lol just change the ratio test:primo and you will not think about such stupid things as adding synthetic e2
 
It'd not stupid whatsoever. MANY doctors prescribe men estradiol valerate, which is not synthetic whatsoever. It's bioidenical estrogen. Along with estradiol cypionate and estradiol enanthate. Synthetic ethinyl estradiol is the synthetic stuff that caused a lot of women cancer. DOCTORS recognize ALL men aromatize differently. Gym Bro bodybuilders will never understand this because they parrot the same thing on these bodybuilder boards over and over for decades and fail to research the actual trt boards where REAL doctors post.

Testosterone and estrogen need to be in men's bodies in a specific ratio to feel good and have healthy libido. Anybody here ever crash estrogen with AIs And have ZERO interest in sex whatsoever and cant get ur dick hard?? Estrogen is KEY to mens libido. I'd argue more important than test. Take all the test in the world, and your castrated without proper estrogen and also with too much estrogen. Some men need to lower their estrogen via AIs. Some men need to add estrogen exogenous.

It's agreed upon that men NEED estrogen from aromatazion. But some Men's bodies just genetically can't aromatize as much as others on the exact same testosterone dosage. And some men get permanently messed up from years of Exemestane usage.. So exogenous estrogen needs to be added to balance the test/estrogen ratio..

This is a completely unique and individual thing and their are ZERO studies about men supplementing estrogen WITH testosterone and other anabolics.. Only male to female transgender patients that crush testosterone with drugs taking exogenous estrogen. This is NOT the same thing whatsoever, and your not going to get any sort of serious response on these message boards. These bodybuilding boards are full of jacked up men that DONT need exogenous estrogen and need to lower estrogen with AIs. Most of them in their 20s and are just gonna accuse you of being a tranny just to get a laugh and gang up on you from their online butt buddy's with similar post counts. Lotta big egos here that everybody follows because of a high post count. It's a comical peanut gallery here and exponentially worse in other boards

I say go for it and see how you feel and report back. Estrogen isn't going to kill you. Our bodies naturally produce it along with testosterone. Just stay hydrated, keep an eye on your bloodwork. I'd get bloodwork weekly to see if the exogenous estrogen is doing anything crazy your body. Especially your liver where estrogen is metabolized. Not sure if you drink alcohol, but Maybe even stop drinking completely to get a rock solid reading on your liver during this cycle of yours. It would have been even better to run the exact same cycle without the estrogen to get a baseline of what primo will actually do to your body itself.

Hell brother, this might be the moat amazing thing to add to a primo cycle. Won't know till you try it. Let's face some facts here gentleman. Every single one of us on here is our own Guinea pig, and we all figure out thru trial and error what works best for us individually.

Good luck my friend!
 
It'd not stupid whatsoever. MANY doctors prescribe men estradiol valerate, which is not synthetic whatsoever. It's bioidenical estrogen. Along with estradiol cypionate and estradiol enanthate. Synthetic ethinyl estradiol is the synthetic stuff that caused a lot of women cancer. DOCTORS recognize ALL men aromatize differently. Gym Bro bodybuilders will never understand this because they parrot the same thing on these bodybuilder boards over and over for decades and fail to research the actual trt boards where REAL doctors post.

Testosterone and estrogen need to be in men's bodies in a specific ratio to feel good and have healthy libido. Anybody here ever crash estrogen with AIs And have ZERO interest in sex whatsoever and cant get ur dick hard?? Estrogen is KEY to mens libido. I'd argue more important than test. Take all the test in the world, and your castrated without proper estrogen and also with too much estrogen. Some men need to lower their estrogen via AIs. Some men need to add estrogen exogenous.

It's agreed upon that men NEED estrogen from aromatazion. But some Men's bodies just genetically can't aromatize as much as others on the exact same testosterone dosage. And some men get permanently messed up from years of Exemestane usage.. So exogenous estrogen needs to be added to balance the test/estrogen ratio..

This is a completely unique and individual thing and their are ZERO studies about men supplementing estrogen WITH testosterone and other anabolics.. Only male to female transgender patients that crush testosterone with drugs taking exogenous estrogen. This is NOT the same thing whatsoever, and your not going to get any sort of serious response on these message boards. These bodybuilding boards are full of jacked up men that DONT need exogenous estrogen and need to lower estrogen with AIs. Most of them in their 20s and are just gonna accuse you of being a tranny just to get a laugh and gang up on you from their online butt buddy's with similar post counts. Lotta big egos here that everybody follows because of a high post count. It's a comical peanut gallery here and exponentially worse in other boards

I say go for it and see how you feel and report back. Estrogen isn't going to kill you. Our bodies naturally produce it along with testosterone. Just stay hydrated, keep an eye on your bloodwork. I'd get bloodwork weekly to see if the exogenous estrogen is doing anything crazy your body. Especially your liver where estrogen is metabolized. Not sure if you drink alcohol, but Maybe even stop drinking completely to get a rock solid reading on your liver during this cycle of yours. It would have been even better to run the exact same cycle without the estrogen to get a baseline of what primo will actually do to your body itself.

Hell brother, this might be the moat amazing thing to add to a primo cycle. Won't know till you try it. Let's face some facts here gentleman. Every single one of us on here is our own Guinea pig, and we all figure out thru trial and error what works best for us individually.

Good luck my friend!
i dont know - if i disgree with luki i afraid what he could do , it better to just do what he say be obdient
 
do it your way and take a clen to balance the amount of calories you consumed by eating candy bars👍🏻
i current have clen with add 3 session 30 min cardio on top 15k steps daily , no candy bar this week just chicken breast or egg white sir - i do not want problem with you sir ,
 
i current have clen with add 3 session 30 min cardio on top 15k steps daily , no candy bar this week just chicken breast or egg white sir - i do not want problem with you sir ,
3 sessions of 30 minutes of cardio per week is as much as a pensioner in a sanatorium and an average working European does 15,000 steps per day so there is nothing to brag about - and it's not hate, it's just that there is nothing to brag about
 
3 sessions of 30 minutes of cardio per week is as much as a pensioner in a sanatorium and an average working European does 15,000 steps per day so there is nothing to brag about - and it's not hate, it's just that there is nothing to brag about
it not bragging no absolute not , i will increase to everday session then - calorie intake still 600 - 1k daily still no refeed yet
 
it not bragging no absolute not , i will increase to everday session then - calorie intake still 600 - 1k daily still no refeed yet
great - that is, complete fasting adding all possible fat burners and trying to kill hunger with drugs for diabetics and people with morbid obesity - congratulations great "your own way"👍🏻

but I don't say anything more because I'm attacking everyone and spreading "bronoscience"🤷🏻‍♂️
 
i dont know - if i disgree with luki i afraid what he could do , it better to just do what he say be obdient
Wow. Thought I was talking to a independently thinking man, not another man's stain. I sure wasted my time writing that.
 
i hope arharness do not read this , would be embarrasing for me
 
Not sexy or scientific sounding, but when I'm on stuff like DHB that really lowers estro, a combo of DHEA and Pregnenolone insures that you have a decent hormonal balance by providing precursors.


Truevantage Nutrition DHEA 100mg Supplement with Pregnenolone 60mg -Supports Hormone Balance, Lean Muscle Mass, Energy, Mood, Sleep, and Healthy Aging in Men and Women- Vegetable Capsules
 

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