Does anyone train under Justin Harris?

[rayked11]

So you pay a guy $2200 to basically tell you to eat chicken/beef and rice throughout the day because you aren't even sure if he does training plans or talks about drugs but instead of actually asking the guy you come on here to find out about him. You also post about one of his most known ex clients who told you in private messages to not hire him and you then post all that info in the open without even knowing the story as to why he changed his mind. You are now asking about another coach like you may hire him instead. I can't help but think why didn't you ask him this stuff before paying him. Then you disrespect him and Ben Pollack by posting this thread. A simple thread asking about feedback before you hired him would have been fine but the way you have gone about it is very off to me. No biggie but I can't help but think you would be a nightmare client.

I knew that he does training plans, my whole point of this thread was to see if anyone here actually uses him for training instead of nutrition. Man all I said was ben said he doesn't recommend him and Id assume that is because of personal issues too. Like i said i picked justin because he's a super knowledgeable and smart guy and also because of his successful clients like Ben which is why i brought that situation up. That other coach Chris turtle is a nutritionist, and so is Justin but i didn't go with chris because it seems no one uses him for actual training and now it seems to be the case with Justin. I didn't mean to disrespect anyone.

 

[rayked11]

So you pay a guy $2200 to basically tell you to eat chicken/beef and rice throughout the day because you aren't even sure if he does training plans or talks about drugs but instead of actually asking the guy you come on here to find out about him. You also post about one of his most known ex clients who told you in private messages to not hire him and you then post all that info in the open without even knowing the story as to why he changed his mind. You are now asking about another coach like you may hire him instead. I can't help but think why didn't you ask him this stuff before paying him. Then you disrespect him and Ben Pollack by posting this thread. A simple thread asking about feedback before you hired him would have been fine but the way you have gone about it is very off to me. No biggie but I can't help but think you would be a nightmare client.

So you pay a guy $2200 to basically tell you to eat chicken/beef and rice throughout the day because you aren't even sure if he does training plans or talks about drugs but instead of actually asking the guy you come on here to find out about him. You also post about one of his most known ex clients who told you in private messages to not hire him and you then post all that info in the open without even knowing the story as to why he changed his mind. You are now asking about another coach like you may hire him instead. I can't help but think why didn't you ask him this stuff before paying him. Then you disrespect him and Ben Pollack by posting this thread. A simple thread asking about feedback before you hired him would have been fine but the way you have gone about it is very off to me. No biggie but I can't help but think you would be a nightmare client.

"So you pay a guy $2200 to basically tell you to eat chicken/beef and rice throughout the day" This seems quite disrespectful to me, undermining Justin's value as a coach.

 

[pesty4077]

"So you pay a guy $2200 to basically tell you to eat chicken/beef and rice throughout the day" This seems quite disrespectful to me, undermining Justin's value as a coach.

Isn't that exactly what you are doing? You spent $2200 and now want your money back. Isn't that undermining Justin? Why would you even shell out that money unless you are 100% sure of him?

 

[rayked11]

Isn't that exactly what you are doing? You spent $2200 and now want your money back. Isn't that undermining Justin? Why would you even shell out that money unless you are 100% sure of him?

Never said I wanted a refund, I was just replying to someone suggesting I'm stuck with him since I already paid which isn't the case. I mean me paying Justin $2200 just shows the respect i have for him and doesn't show I undermine him. I am just unsure if nutrition alone is worth the $2200 for me personally which is why I'm asking to see peoples experience with justin coaching in training.

 

[Dugbet]

No biggie but I can't help but think you would be a nightmare client.

Wow, this is amazing, I can't relate to clients who act this way.

If you pay a good deal of money, hopefully that coach will guide you through training, nutrition, drugs, prevention and health tricks and suplements. Also, he should be able to teach you how to pose if you are competing.

If a coach who has been in the business for several years does not help or advise me on all this, I will quickly change him.

The approach of this thread is one of the most stupid I can remember, although luckily it was resolved with some valuable information from other members.

 

[rayked11]

Seems like from some peoples perspective I'm disrespecting justin. Can a moderator delete this thread please? I didn't want it to come across as any disrespect to Justin.

 

[qbkilla]

Not directed at one person (OP or others who commented)l.. but this thread shows the amount of drama that grown ass men can have. Disrespect is hitting on a guys wife, not questioning if a coach is work $2k or weather a client is a pain in the ass. Overall id say its up to you weather the service he gives you is worth $2k. The price of something is what someone is willing to pay. My personal opinion if you don't train optimally his training will help you, if your already training on a solid plan with appropriate volume (this stuff isn't rocket science) I guess it will give you peace of mind someone with a good reputation is guiding you.

 

[qbkilla]

And if your someone who is always using the latest supplement you read about on the boards, has 4 different powders and takes 50 pills a day and following the evidence based programs written by scientists with dad bods, a coach who cuts out the bullshit and just has you keep it simple and basic will probably help you a great deal.

 

[Elvia1023]

"So you pay a guy $2200 to basically tell you to eat chicken/beef and rice throughout the day" This seems quite disrespectful to me, undermining Justin's value as a coach.

I thought you would state this (reply to that sentence) and I completely understand but I mainly meant it from your side of the equation. You paid him and you didn't know much about him. People have posted his diets are very simple (effective) so you essentially paid for that not knowing anything else. But besides that you came on here and divulged info that someone told you in private. Again no biggie I just get the impression it won't turn out well and not because of Justin because from what I have heard he is a great coach. Maybe I am way off and you would be a great client but I just can't understand the way you have gone about things and surely you should be finding out exactly what you are buying before you buy it.

 

[Elvia1023]

Not directed at one person (OP or others who commented)l.. but this thread shows the amount of drama that grown ass men can have. Disrespect is hitting on a guys wife, not questioning if a coach is work $2k or weather a client is a pain in the ass. Overall id say its up to you weather the service he gives you is worth $2k. The price of something is what someone is willing to pay. My personal opinion if you don't train optimally his training will help you, if your already training on a solid plan with appropriate volume (this stuff isn't rocket science) I guess it will give you peace of mind someone with a good reputation is guiding you.

Maybe I used the wrong word and it was more about Ben. I just think it's wrong getting told something in private and then going and divulging it on an open thread. Maybe Ben doesn't care and he wants everyone to know but it's not the type of thing you just relay to everyone. Hey maybe they hate each other now and he wants everyone to know but I doubt it and whilst it's obviously personal reasons why he feels that way it shows a lot to me about the person. I am all for honesty but surely you understand what I am stating. What if you disliked someone who is really respected on here and you tell me in a pm about how you can't stand him but you don't post these feelings openly then I post a thread about it straightaway. That wouldn't make you feel I can be trusted? You don't think I am not disrespecting you? Plus trust me I know the world has gone soft and I am all for being blunt and I can't be offended as I don't care. I can argue with someone and be like it never happened 10 mins later but still divulging something told in private is just a no no to me. Well there are some exceptions because I hope the syntherol sales list is posted on here soon

 

[rayked11]

I thought you would state this (reply to that sentence) and I completely understand but I mainly meant it from your side of the equation. You paid him and you didn't know much about him. People have posted his diets are very simple (effective) so you essentially paid for that not knowing anything else. But besides that you came on here and divulged info that someone told you in private. Again no biggie I just get the impression it won't turn out well and not because of Justin because from what I have heard he is a great coach. Maybe I am way off and you would be a great client but I just can't understand the way you have gone about things and surely you should be finding out exactly what you are buying before you buy it.

Agreed definitely wrong for that just didn’t think much about it. Please someone who has the power to delete this thread, do so!

 

[pesty4077]

Agreed definitely wrong for that just didn’t think much about it. Please someone who has the power to delete this thread, do so!

I do, but I think we can learn from this. What to do and not to do. I see nothing that makes me want to delete this thread.

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

imo a guy with good genetics could take half that or even less.
imo just no way a dude like dexter is using all that and lasted long as he did.
bboy doesnt use near that....
i dont even think milos prescribes that much stuff and he is known for taking an advanced guy and adding 10 lbs to him

It was meant to be funny post. I’m sure somebody out there is running that kind of cycle though probably never Dexter you’re right.

 

[Dens228]

It was meant to be funny post. I’m sure somebody out there is running that kind of cycle though probably never Dexter you’re right.

I'm going to start a new thread about favorite Christmas songs and start a betting pool on how many posts it takes to turn it into a drugs vs genetics thread. LOL

 

[F350]

Instagram DMs but he doesnt want to share why. Now I'm thinking of trying to get that refund of the $2200 I just spent with the year with justin harris, was hoping someone on here would of had great experience with him for both nutrition and training.

I would not base your decision on one persons experience. I remember Ben posting up that he wanted more hands on time for getting his pro card and he felt like Justin wasnt able to provide what he needed. That happens. Ben also has changed coaches numerous times in the past couple years.
Justin is very knowledgeable and will get you to your goals if you explain what your main goals are etc.
Whether its diet, drugs, or strength he knows his shit. I wouldn't second guess yourself now. Justin is tried and proven so one person being unhappy who was not happy with sevearl other coaches should not be a deciding factor. Im not knocking Ben either. How could you? The guys a beast. But keep in mind Justin took him from like 200lbs to 260lbs solid as a rock in likely less than 18mo so he defintiely knows what hes doing. If I remmebr correctly when Ben did a show under John Meadows he was only a middle weight I believe less than two years later hes a super heavy with a pro card. Its really about who you click with.

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

I'm going to start a new thread about favorite Christmas songs and start a betting pool on how many posts it takes to turn it into a drugs vs genetics thread. LOL

Can’t wait to read Bboy’s posts in your thread.

 

[Dens228]

Can’t wait to read Bboy’s posts in your thread.

At least he walks the walk. Some just parrot to fit in.

 

[Sj9]

Definitely get a refund. I like Justin a lot and I’d hate for him to have to work with someone like you.

 

[qbkilla]

Maybe I used the wrong word and it was more about Ben. I just think it's wrong getting told something in private and then going and divulging it on an open thread. Maybe Ben doesn't care and he wants everyone to know but it's not the type of thing you just relay to everyone. Hey maybe they hate each other now and he wants everyone to know but I doubt it and whilst it's obviously personal reasons why he feels that way it shows a lot to me about the person. I am all for honesty but surely you understand what I am stating. What if you disliked someone who is really respected on here and you tell me in a pm about how you can't stand him but you don't post these feelings openly then I post a thread about it straightaway. That wouldn't make you feel I can be trusted? You don't think I am not disrespecting you? Plus trust me I know the world has gone soft and I am all for being blunt and I can't be offended as I don't care. I can argue with someone and be like it never happened 10 mins later but still divulging something told in private is just a no no to me. Well there are some exceptions because I hope the syntherol sales list is posted on here soon

Good post and I see your point of view. Definitely agree that now days society is too soft and everyone is offended, feeling slighted, disrespected. As for the one guy not liking the other, definitely can be chalked up to man drama where we will never know the whole story and none of us should probably care. Lol

 

[TheOtherOne55]

I worked with Justin all of last year. The ONLY reason i stopped is because I basically took this entire year off (competing and blasting wise) as my wife and I are trying to have a child.

But i have NOTHING bad to say about Justin at all. Oh you heard 1 opinion and you dont even know the details??
Congrats! I can talk to one person who hates you....am I supposed to take that person's word? ONLY trust that guys opinion.
Jesus christ. When you look for a restaurant on Yelp, do you read 1 review? For the love of god use common sense here.

Also, the VAST majority of coaches are only going to offer nutritional services. I remember talking with IFBB pro Matt Kouba a couple years back as he was taking on more clients (btw Justin said this same thing)...i'm paraphrasing here.."Everything works...you've been training 5-10 years? Cool...yeah i can make some tweaks and give some advice. But i bet whats holding you back isnt your training, its your consistency and your fuckin diet."
And i agree with that.

2nd of all, Just has a VARIETY of training books out that you can just BUY.
I know this thread is DEAD already but had to chime in with the level of cluelessness I was reading.