does it upset you when people.....

[rturk]

Start a cycle knowing nothing about what they are doing, or not knowing about pct? A kid I know is on his first cycle and is on his 22nd week of running test e. He was planning on running another 4 vials. And then says he wants to run a cycle of test and tren for summer......... should I not concern myself? I feel like he is being reckless and is going to do some serious damage.

 

[little slice]

are you friends with the guy? is he a relative?



if not, who cares?


he made the decision, he should have known the risks

 

[rturk]

I guess I consider him as a friend. I have tried to tell him he needs time to recover and he asks me for advice but doesn't take it. I did my research and I feel like he just found someone selling and bought it/started it without learning anything.

 

[little slice]

I guess I consider him as a friend. I have tried to tell him he needs time to recover and he asks me for advice but doesn't take it. I did my research and I feel like he just found someone selling and bought it/started it without learning anything.

I think that the longer you spend in this "game", the more you will realize that there is no "recovering". IMO, steroids were not meant to be stopped.. once you start, you should be on them for life.. even if it's just a legitimate trt dose of say...100mg test E/week


if you can't stomach that, then don't begin using them in the first place. im not an endocrinologist, but I doubt the HPTA was meant to be dealing with dramatic peaks and troughs in hormone levels a few to several times a year..

friends of mine have naturally been at the lowest end of the spectrum for natural testosterone production... even during the years when they should be in their "prime". hormones are funny like that I guess

 

[Queefer]

Tell him quit immediately.

 

[sodzl]

Fuck 'em. I've tried to steer so many young guys in the right direction but they don't listen. They see a guy in the gym getting swole ave just do whatever he's doing regardless off how dangerous it may be. Think about the number of newbies that show up here half way through their first cycle asking for basic help. Now think about the kids in the gym who just bought a bottle from someone just as clueless as them.

 

[BradScott]

Start a cycle knowing nothing about what they are doing, or not knowing about pct? A kid I know is on his first cycle and is on his 22nd week of running test e. He was planning on running another 4 vials. And then says he wants to run a cycle of test and tren for summer......... should I not concern myself? I feel like he is being reckless and is going to do some serious damage.

Considering the amount of reckless and stupid people around--and their numbers seem to be increasing exponentially with each passing year--there is supposedly a ton to be upset about.

 

[tattoo449]

If he's a good friend I'd try to tell him. But he probably won't listen. Lots of people just do as they want.

 

[broncos62577]

I think that the longer you spend in this "game", the more you will realize that there is no "recovering". IMO, steroids were not meant to be stopped.. once you start, you should be on them for life.. even if it's just a legitimate trt dose of say...100mg test E/week


if you can't stomach that, then don't begin using them in the first place. im not an endocrinologist, but I doubt the HPTA was meant to be dealing with dramatic peaks and troughs in hormone levels a few to several times a year..

friends of mine have naturally been at the lowest end of the spectrum for natural testosterone production... even during the years when they should be in their "prime". hormones are funny like that I guess

I fully agree with this. My first cycle four years ago I did pct and coming off just did a number on me. My mood, libido, just overall sense of well being declined. Ever since I made the choice to always be on if only low dose to "recover". Although now that im planning on competing on national stage my low time isnt so low right now lol.

 

[finxster]

Start a cycle knowing nothing about what they are doing, or not knowing about pct? A kid I know is on his first cycle and is on his 22nd week of running test e. He was planning on running another 4 vials. And then says he wants to run a cycle of test and tren for summer......... should I not concern myself? I feel like he is being reckless and is going to do some serious damage.

What's his age? What's his dose? If he's over 18, test is lower dose, and no orals are involved then there's not a whole lot to go wrong...

I wish I had stayed on from the beginning. PCT always did a number on me, and is just a waste of money IMO.

 

[RamboStallone]

I'm on week 60 of my first cycle....just sayin'

I agree with little slice.

 

[rturk]

I wish I had stayed on from the beginning. PCT always did a number on me, and is just a waste of money IMO.

i hear you about pct. My back and shoulders are riddled with acne from pct that I did about 12 weeks ago

 

[Bio]

There's also the issue of blood donation due to high RBC/Hematocrit and high blood pressure, which is the real killer in this endeavor! If you're friends with him, sit him down and tell him about all the things he has no idea about...Freak him out a bit...Make him think!!

 

[Goody]

Sounds like 95% of the people running gear out there

 

[buck]

if you try to tell people/friends about every time they are screwing up there life in some manner whether it be cycles, financial, relationships, health, work etc. you are going to be very busy during your life.

 

[politicaljunkie]

Seems like half the guys on here (including myself) never come off or very infrequently.

 

[get it in ya]

he is doing test? that's frickin crazy!! i would talk to his parents and get everyone together like a intervention.

 

[sammy555]

I think that the longer you spend in this "game", the more you will realize that there is no "recovering". IMO, steroids were not meant to be stopped.. once you start, you should be on them for life.. even if it's just a legitimate trt dose of say...100mg test E/week


if you can't stomach that, then don't begin using them in the first place. im not an endocrinologist, but I doubt the HPTA was meant to be dealing with dramatic peaks and troughs in hormone levels a few to several times a year..

friends of mine have naturally been at the lowest end of the spectrum for natural testosterone production... even during the years when they should be in their "prime". hormones are funny like that I guess

Agreed

 

[nothuman]

Forums have been great for steering people in the right direction for the most part, but they have also created silly "rules" that you HAVE to follow, which is complete bullshit. Like you HAVE to do 500mg test e first cycle, HAVE to do nolvadex/clomid exactly 14 days post injection, etc. Absolutely no tren first cycle. Only oral to consider first cycle is dbol, etc. So many silly rules. Everyone is different and if they have enough knowledge, can do what they think it right for THEM.

 

[sammy555]

Forums have been great for steering people in the right direction for the most part, but they have also created silly "rules" that you HAVE to follow, which is complete bullshit. Like you HAVE to do 500mg test e first cycle, HAVE to do nolvadex/clomid exactly 14 days post injection, etc. Absolutely no tren first cycle. Only oral to consider first cycle is dbol, etc. So many silly rules. Everyone is different and if they have enough knowledge, can do what they think it right for THEM.

Rules are there to be broken