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Does taking a DHT blocker make your cycle less effective... Not really but yes.

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JAMA. 2012 Mar 7;307(9):931-9.

Effect of testosterone supplementation with and without a dual 5α-reductase inhibitor on fat-free mass in men with suppressed testosterone production: a randomized controlled trial.

Bhasin S, Travison TG, Storer TW, Lakshman K, Kaushik M, Mazer NA, Ngyuen AH, Davda MN, Jara H, Aakil A, Anderson S, Knapp PE, Hanka S, Mohammed N, Daou P, Miciek R, Ulloor J, Zhang A, Brooks B, Orwoll K, Hede-Brierley L, Eder R, Elmi A, Bhasin G, Collins L, Singh R, Basaria S.
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Section of Endocrinology, Diabetes, and Nutrition, Boston University School of Medicine and Boston Medical Center, 670 Albany St, Boston, MA 02118, USA. [email protected]
Abstract

CONTEXT:

Steroid 5α-reductase inhibitors are used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia and androgenic alopecia, but the role of 5α-dihydrotestosterone (DHT) in mediating testosterone's effects on muscle, sexual function, erythropoiesis, and other androgen-dependent processes remains poorly understood.

OBJECTIVE:

To determine whether testosterone's effects on muscle mass, strength, sexual function, hematocrit level, prostate volume, sebum production, and lipid levels are attenuated when its conversion to DHT is blocked by dutasteride (an inhibitor of 5α-reductase type 1 and 2).

DESIGN, SETTING, AND PATIENTS:

The 5α-Reductase Trial was a randomized controlled trial of healthy men aged 18 to 50 years comparing placebo plus testosterone enthanate with dutasteride plus testosterone enanthate from May 2005 through June 2010.

INTERVENTIONS:

Eight treatment groups received 50, 125, 300, or 600 mg/wk of testosterone enanthate for 20 weeks plus placebo (4 groups) or 2.5 mg/d of dutasteride (4 groups).

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES:

The primary outcome was change in fat-free mass; secondary outcomes: changes in fat mass, muscle strength, sexual function, prostate volume, sebum production, and hematocrit and lipid levels.

RESULTS:

A total of 139 men were randomized; 102 completed the 20-week intervention. Men assigned to dutasteride were similar at baseline to those assigned to placebo. The mean fat-free mass gained by the dutasteride groups was 0.6 kg (95% CI, -0.1 to 1.2 kg) when receiving 50 mg/wk of testosterone enanthate, 2.6 kg (95% CI, 0.9 to 4.3 kg) for 125 mg/wk, 5.8 kg (95% CI, 4.8 to 6.9 kg) for 300 mg/wk, and 7.1 kg (95% CI, 6.0 to 8.2 kg) for 600 mg/wk. The mean fat-free mass gained by the placebo groups was 0.8 kg (95% CI, -0.1 to 1.7 kg) when receiving 50 mg/wk of testosterone enanthate, 3.5 kg (95% CI, 2.1 to 4.8 kg) for 125 mg/wk, 5.7 kg (95% CI, 4.8 to 6.5 kg) for 300 mg/wk, and 8.1 kg (95% CI, 6.7 to 9.5 kg) for 600 mg/wk. The dose-adjusted differences between the dutasteride and placebo groups for fat-free mass were not significant (P = .18). Changes in fat mass, muscle strength, sexual function, prostate volume, sebum production, and hematocrit and lipid levels did not differ between groups.

CONCLUSION:

Changes in fat-free mass in response to graded testosterone doses did not differ in men in whom DHT was suppressed by dutasteride from those treated with placebo, indicating that conversion of testosterone to DHT is not essential for mediating its anabolic effects on muscle.



"Test Enan 600mg/wk + Dutastride group gained 7.1kg of fat-ree mass in 20 weeks."

"Test Enan 600mg/wk + placebo group gained 8.1kg of fat-free mass in 20 weeks."
 
that does not come as a shocker to me, thanks for the post though how do i get in on these studies lol.
 
My doc prescribed me Finasteride like a year ago. Killed my libido and sexual function. I stopped taking it and gained 5 lbs of added mass. T seemed to work better. No more sides!
 
My doc prescribed me Finasteride like a year ago. Killed my libido and sexual function. I stopped taking it and gained 5 lbs of added mass. T seemed to work better. No more sides!

That shit is awful. Gave me gyno to. Fuck Finasteride!!
 
So basicly you'd be better off without dutasteride while using 600mg of test E???:confused:
 
I believe there is a lot of intracellular 5AR activity that you cannot measure with plasma. DHT produced in this manner goes directly to the AR and never leaves the cell. Also, that testing involved mass, not what DHT is known for in bodybuilding...

Still an interesting study, good find.
 

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