Donating blood, is it necessary?

[danieltx]

This has been explained in simple terms so many times and y'all still can't undertand it.

I won't help any more.

I hope all of you donating for no reason (and 99% of you are donating for no reason) develop health issues because of it.

 

[Chipper Jones78]

This has been explained in simple terms so many times and y'all still can't undertand it.

I won't help any more.

I hope all of you donating for no reason (and 99% of you are donating for no reason) develop health issues because of it.

I was honestly going to post, where is @danieltx we need him to reply to this post.

 

[bbxtreme]

This has been explained in simple terms so many times and y'all still can't undertand it.

I won't help any more.

I hope all of you donating for no reason (and 99% of you are donating for no reason) develop health issues because of it.

Guys will continue to come here and ask this question over and over. Even when they read why they shouldn’t they will. Why? Because they perceive it as a temporary fix.

What everyone needs to understand is how hard it is to rebuild your RBC count, iron stores and blood health. More importantly, how shitty you will feel during that period. One blood donation too many or one that’s not necessary and you will feel like death for months on end IF you know how to rebuild your blood health.

This short term perceived fix is NOT the solution. In the 5 years I’ve been back at this sport hard at the level I am, not once have I donated blood.

I’m not one to fear guys into things usually on here, but this is one topic where everyone should know their risk.

 

[Sectør]

This has been explained in simple terms so many times and y'all still can't undertand it.

I won't help any more.

I hope all of you donating for no reason (and 99% of you are donating for no reason) develop health issues because of it.

I mean respectfully, I don’t think wishing Ill on someone’s health is the solution here.

There is a lot of conflicting information on the topic, both inside and outside the forum. The newer information points to multiple donations being unnecessary, even harmful.

Thank you @bbxtreme for clarifying that.

 

[aHarness]

That used to be the going theme that donating blood was beneficial

I think in more recent years that conversation has changed though, with some saying It can cause massive up and down fluctuations in hemocrit, and that overall it’s not worth it to donate.

I still don’t know what the correct answer is honestly

The true answer lies in assessing your entire bloodwork and NOT just HCT/RBC

 

[aHarness]

This has been explained in simple terms so many times and y'all still can't undertand it.

I won't help any more.

I hope all of you donating for no reason (and 99% of you are donating for no reason) develop health issues because of it.

I don’t blame you for not wanting to write out why again. It’s getting ridiculous.

 

[aHarness]

Guys will continue to come here and ask this question over and over. Even when they read why they shouldn’t they will. Why? Because they perceive it as a temporary fix.

What everyone needs to understand is how hard it is to rebuild your RBC count, iron stores and blood health. More importantly, how shitty you will feel during that period. One blood donation too many or one that’s not necessary and you will feel like death for months on end IF you know how to rebuild your blood health.

This short term perceived fix is NOT the solution. In the 5 years I’ve been back at this sport hard at the level I am, not once have I donated blood.

I’m not one to fear guys into things usually on here, but this is one topic where everyone should know their risk.

Not to mention that building those levels back up can be VERY difficult for some

 

[pumpkinhead]

I’m watching this YouTube video about TRT and running cycles and how you should donate blood I guess really the only thing they said was cause they could build a disease that could be irreversible and that it helps with thickening of the blood? Is this really necessary?

For most cases, if you are on TRT or any kind of cycle, you should be giving blood. Causes high red blood cell levels/hemacrits, etc... This can lead to stroke and clots. Get your blood work done and check out levels, this will tell you if you need to give blood and how often. Besides, its like a oil change for the body.

 

[Gizmo]

For most cases, if you are on TRT or any kind of cycle, you should be giving blood. Causes high red blood cell levels/hemacrits, etc... This can lead to stroke and clots. Get your blood work done and check out levels, this will tell you if you need to give blood and how often. Besides, its like an oil change for the body.

No. Very bad advice.

 

[pumpkinhead]

No. Very bad advice.

most doctors would disagree with you when it comes to elevated levels and clotting risk....also my if you read what I wrote, I said, "get your blood work done and check out your levels"..... obviously do not donate blood if other key points are out of wack with your blood work, i.e. Anemia, etc..

 

[bbxtreme]

Not to mention that building those levels back up can be VERY difficult for some

I have seen it take a year or more for some even while doing the right supplements and diet. The body biologically is not meant to dump large amounts of blood. Lol you’d think everyone would get that basic logic.

 

[curcumin]

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.128.suppl_22.a18253

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26299080/

It appears the opposite may be true.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3678279/#:~:text=The cause of bone marrow,in hemoglobin concentrations [18].

This study proposed that high inflammation even leads to decreased responsiveness to EPO.

https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/blood-diseases/anemia-inflammation-chronic-disease

Even full blown anemia is directly linked to higher levels of inflammation.

Thank you so much for taking the time to look into what I wrote and double check me. I need to be double checked! I am aware of the connection of anemia and HCT. But I'll be honest I've never read a study since I've never been anywhere close to anemic lol

There's a strong link between inflammation, metabolic disorder and blood viscosity/hematocrit/RBC. You appear smarter brained than I am so perhaps you can make sense of that connection. I've discussed it with people far smarter than I and have been assured that improving blood glucose markers and metabolic condition will improve blood markers. One primary way I have found to improve metabolic condition is to...reduce inflammation

 

[Alzadosghost]

I do not donate blood. Never have. I don’t think it’s worth the negative aspect of bloodletting.

 

[Mufasa123]

I have to be in range for insurance periodically and I've had issues with them before on this. Their current way or the highway - they give no shits what anyone says. It's about providing for my family so it is what it is. HCT can get to mid-high 50s and I've posted a 61 once I think, but platelets are mid to even below mid range. They are never high or even top half of range.

All that said, I'm an RBC making machine apparently. I've never had any ill effects even with long series of weekly phlebotomy (weekly draws lower my CRIT roughly 1.9-2.0 each draw based on decent stream of data). Ferritin can get a tad lower but no effects really. I also get routine labs so I don't go too low or deplete...that said my body is unable to get to or under 45 (I guess 00 Buck close range to upper torso would do it). Given I have had to deal with this at times, I guess I'm grateful for the makeup and resiliency.

Kind of sucks being forced into it, but I want the insurance and I have no problem getting it down or sides from the process. Been dealing with it a long time. Shit gets old though and I'm hoping frequency can be kept to annual at worst from now on.

 

[buck]

Started donating over 25 years ago. Not as often these days as my iron levels don't get as high as they used to. Am 65 with nice healthy blood. And no other real conditions.
I am not sure that saying donating blood is not a normal or healthy thing to do is a good case if a person is taking large amounts of anabolic as that is not healthy either.
For what it is worth according to my PhenoAge calculation my blood is 10 years younger then me!

 

[pistonpump]

This has been explained in simple terms so many times and y'all still can't undertand it.

I won't help any more.

I hope all of you donating for no reason (and 99% of you are donating for no reason) develop health issues because of it.

Wishing someone health issues is not cool bro

 

[Massive G]

Wishing someone health issues is not cool bro

He's not. Many, many threads on here about it. Plus the misinformation from doctor's and stopping hrt treatment because of elevated trt is reckless. Hydration sleep apnea treatment and possibly adding in nattokinase are some controls that will keep it down. All this takes effort and most people think a 16 gauge needle and blood bag is an easy fix.
I was lucky never had low iron and or ferritin levels and the docs scared the shit out of me so I donated at least 6 to 10 times a year.
One pint would drop me 1.5% which never was cumulative as like mentioned body will rebound. I was always around 55% whether on 100 mg trt every 5 days or my core bulking cycle of 800 mg Test 400 mg deca.
Untreated sleep apnea and dehydration made things worse than actual anabolics.
DTX is a great member here and I always read his posts he puts a lot of thought into developing a safe plan while continuing to progress and grow.
One thing I have always kept in my supplement plan is bromelain to replace baby aspirin. Bromelain is a natural anti inflammatory and dissolves fibrinogen to reduce clot risks. I always saw a hematologist. I am down to one visit a year as my hematocrit is around 45 down from 55 mainly due to hydration sleep apnea control natto and hydration. We all help each other here and sometimes tough love is needed to get my point across.

 

[pumpflex7]

For most cases, if you are on TRT or any kind of cycle, you should be giving blood. Causes high red blood cell levels/hemacrits, etc... This can lead to stroke and clots. Get your blood work done and check out levels, this will tell you if you need to give blood and how often. Besides, its like an oil change for the body.

Thanks for you input

 

[pumpflex7]

Thank you so much for taking the time to look into what I wrote and double check me. I need to be double checked! I am aware of the connection of anemia and HCT. But I'll be honest I've never read a study since I've never been anywhere close to anemic lol

There's a strong link between inflammation, metabolic disorder and blood viscosity/hematocrit/RBC. You appear smarter brained than I am so perhaps you can make sense of that connection. I've discussed it with people far smarter than I and have been assured that improving blood glucose markers and metabolic condition will improve blood markers. One primary way I have found to improve metabolic condition is to...reduce inflammation

I second lol, much appreciated

 

[slesh]

I rather donate semen