Dosing cruitique

[jdchaffin]

stats
5'7"
185lbs.
11%bf
age - 26

training - I switch between DC and High volume.

diet - Currently doing 50%pro/30%carb/20%fat I'm leaning out currently and am eating about 2600 cals/day. will keep the same macro proportions and simply up the cals as needed.

training history - 12 yrs consistant w/weights 5 yrs including diet.- weighed in at 150 when I started paying attention to diet.

cycle histroy - 2 cycles both
1st-500mg/w of test e for 12 weeks. pct nolva 40,40,20,20

2nd-250mg/w of test e for 13weeks
400mg/w of EQ for 14 weeks pct Continued exemestane from cycle to 5 weeks after.
(I gained well on the 500mg of test but I tended to bloat quite a bit. large learning experience. in the second I tried to use lower test with another compound to avoid the bloat and it + improved diet worked very well. litterally no bloat in cycle two. however the EQ didn't seem to produce the results I was hoping for and I ended up upping the test to 400mg/w at about week 9 and noticed more gains. but again bloat went up as well.)

Proposed cycle- 13weeks
test C @ 500mg/week
deca @ 400mg/week
Aromasin @ 25mg throughout
or
test C@ 250mg/week
deca @ 200mg/week
Aromasin @25mg throughout PCT-Torem and the end of either

Thinking of using prami in here as well as I've read good things bout its prolactin suppresion and the gh boost it gives as well.

I was thinking of going with the higher dose right away but was unsure if that was necissary. I didn't know that that much gear would be needed for someone who weighs 185lbs and still made decent gains off of 400-500mg of test. I'm looking for the balance of maximal gains with minimal bloat.
any suggestions?

 

[GorillaGenetics]

stats
5'7"
185lbs.
11%bf
age - 26

training - I switch between DC and High volume.

diet - Currently doing 50%pro/30%carb/20%fat I'm leaning out currently and am eating about 2600 cals/day. will keep the same macro proportions and simply up the cals as needed.

training history - 12 yrs consistant w/weights 5 yrs including diet.- weighed in at 150 when I started paying attention to diet.

cycle histroy - 2 cycles both
1st-500mg/w of test e for 12 weeks. pct nolva 40,40,20,20

2nd-250mg/w of test e for 13weeks
400mg/w of EQ for 14 weeks pct Continued exemestane from cycle to 5 weeks after.
(I gained well on the 500mg of test but I tended to bloat quite a bit. large learning experience. in the second I tried to use lower test with another compound to avoid the bloat and it + improved diet worked very well. litterally no bloat in cycle two. however the EQ didn't seem to produce the results I was hoping for and I ended up upping the test to 400mg/w at about week 9 and noticed more gains. but again bloat went up as well.)

Proposed cycle- 13weeks
test C @ 500mg/week
deca @ 400mg/week
or
test C@ 250mg/week
deca @ 200mg/week
PCT-Torem and the end of either

I was thinking of going with the higher dose right away but was unsure if that was necissary. I didn't know that that much gear would be needed for someone who weighs 185lbs and still made decent gains off of 400-500mg of test. I'm looking for the balance of maximal gains with minimal bloat.
any suggestions?

i would go with the first idea maybe throw a oral in like drol or dbol looks good tho im on torem right now and its great thus far

 

[pesty4077]

stats
5'7"
185lbs.
11%bf
age - 26

training - I switch between DC and High volume.

diet - Currently doing 50%pro/30%carb/20%fat I'm leaning out currently and am eating about 2600 cals/day. will keep the same macro proportions and simply up the cals as needed.

training history - 12 yrs consistant w/weights 5 yrs including diet.- weighed in at 150 when I started paying attention to diet.

cycle histroy - 2 cycles both
1st-500mg/w of test e for 12 weeks. pct nolva 40,40,20,20

2nd-250mg/w of test e for 13weeks
400mg/w of EQ for 14 weeks pct Continued exemestane from cycle to 5 weeks after.
(I gained well on the 500mg of test but I tended to bloat quite a bit. large learning experience. in the second I tried to use lower test with another compound to avoid the bloat and it + improved diet worked very well. litterally no bloat in cycle two. however the EQ didn't seem to produce the results I was hoping for and I ended up upping the test to 400mg/w at about week 9 and noticed more gains. but again bloat went up as well.)

Proposed cycle- 13weeks
test C @ 500mg/week
deca @ 400mg/week
or
test C@ 250mg/week
deca @ 200mg/week
PCT-Torem and the end of either

I was thinking of going with the higher dose right away but was unsure if that was necissary. I didn't know that that much gear would be needed for someone who weighs 185lbs and still made decent gains off of 400-500mg of test. I'm looking for the balance of maximal gains with minimal bloat.
any suggestions?

You need an AI.

 

[jdchaffin]

You need an AI.

ohh yeah. Thanks for pointing that out. I'm planning to run exemestane/aromasin throughout either cycle. my bad on leaving that out.

 

[ythrashn]

ohh yeah. Thanks for pointing that out. I'm planning to run exemestane/aromasin throughout either cycle. my bad on leaving that out.

I'd throw in your AI on your fourth week of the cycle.
There is no need for it till then.
Unless you run Dbol,Test suspension or prop at the beginning of your cycle.

I'd go with the 500mg of Test C a week

I've had good results with deca at 300mg a week, I wouldn't run less.

Dbol would be good to front load at the biginning of you cycle.
You could also run test P or suspension to jump start things.
Test P or suspension would be nice at the end of your cycle so you could use either as a bridge while going into PCT.

Also, I'd run the AI at a low dose unless any sides start to show then I'd bump it up.
Start at 12.5mg EOD then adjust from there.
Estrogen is your friend unless you let it get out of control.
Lower it to much and you libido,joints and gains will suffer.

 

[jdchaffin]

bumping for a few more opinions.

 

[drob29]

stats
5'7"
185lbs.
11%bf
age - 26

training - I switch between DC and High volume.

diet - Currently doing 50%pro/30%carb/20%fat I'm leaning out currently and am eating about 2600 cals/day. will keep the same macro proportions and simply up the cals as needed.

training history - 12 yrs consistant w/weights 5 yrs including diet.- weighed in at 150 when I started paying attention to diet.

cycle histroy - 2 cycles both
1st-500mg/w of test e for 12 weeks. pct nolva 40,40,20,20

2nd-250mg/w of test e for 13weeks
400mg/w of EQ for 14 weeks pct Continued exemestane from cycle to 5 weeks after.
(I gained well on the 500mg of test but I tended to bloat quite a bit. large learning experience. in the second I tried to use lower test with another compound to avoid the bloat and it + improved diet worked very well. litterally no bloat in cycle two. however the EQ didn't seem to produce the results I was hoping for and I ended up upping the test to 400mg/w at about week 9 and noticed more gains. but again bloat went up as well.)

Proposed cycle- 13weeks
test C @ 500mg/week
deca @ 400mg/week
Aromasin @ 25mg throughout
or
test C@ 250mg/week
deca @ 200mg/week
Aromasin @25mg throughout PCT-Torem and the end of either

Thinking of using prami in here as well as I've read good things bout its prolactin suppresion and the gh boost it gives as well.

I was thinking of going with the higher dose right away but was unsure if that was necissary. I didn't know that that much gear would be needed for someone who weighs 185lbs and still made decent gains off of 400-500mg of test. I'm looking for the balance of maximal gains with minimal bloat.
any suggestions?

If your looking for gains without the bloat, why run deca? NPP would be a better addition than deca. Then you could drop the adex as well.

I would also like to see some HCG in there as well, something like 500 iu's E5D wk 3 to last test pin.

"my two cents"