Dr. Tony Huge - SARMS

[lif22]

Injectable SARMS are the real deal.

The problem with SARMS is that they are not methylated, hence the oral bioavailability is poor

Sorry but I have hard time listening to anyone with this line in their signature

International model

 

[jeroendebleser]

In my mind the guy is a personal crash site. His blood work is a mess. He has a baby momma and daughter he barely sees and bangs trannys. He left one of his buddies to die in Columbia with a leg infection from a bad inject. Now he's got some sort of gray area clinic and is pushing injectable SARMS. He's shister lawyer with a con and zero morals.

So that guy that did a crowdfunding some months ago didn't lose his leg as some of us thought would happen but he actually died of the infection?

 

[aphextwin]

Sorry but I have hard time listening to anyone with this line in their signature

International model

I just noticed that...."International Model"....get the Fck out of here

 

[Freedom15Muscle]

I'm guessing HDL in single digits on inj SARMs. On Osta and Ligandrol my HDL went into the teens. Joints felt great though. Care to share your compounding strategy? Can you pull them into an oil base?

You can suspend them in MCT oil but every one is different. The all require a different amount of BA. Ostarine is a pain in the ass. It doesn't suspend well, but its pointless above 20mg. Making liquid SARMS is much the same way but I use PEG300 and cut them with a few other alcohols.

I think ligandrol would be the best candidate for an injectable. Haven't seen anyone really push higher dosages. I made a mixture of MK, Ostarine, and Cardarine a couple weeks ago. I'm using it now. I'll have to look at my notebook. I wrote them down but I'm currently renovating my kitchen so its a mess.


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[RamboStallone]

Wasn’t he doing some crazy 30 days and 30 lbs of muscle experiment?

Loading the harpoon on compounds by “feel”.

[emoji846] ; it’s good entertainment if you’re bored


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He's an attention whore. Trying to reinvent the wheel. Taking grams of gear and selling kids SARMs.

SARMs are a failure. Were supposed to be less sides then AAS, but have proved to be quote the contrary. It has been more sides and less results then AAS. I have witnessed it over and over. For those that don't want to inject, they are an option but if your going to take gear anyway, DON'T bother is my opinion.

 

[RamboStallone]

You completely failed to support that claim in the interview with Dave. I'm also not gonna take your word for it considering your embarrassing lack of basic knowledge on physiology and pharmacology revealed in that interview. Guru my ass.







It makes 0 sense to talk about methylation in the context of SARMs, their chemical structure is vastly different to steroids. Their bioavailability also isn't that bad, 30 to 70% depending on the compound. Obviously injecting the same mg amount of a SARM will be more potent, but the same blood levels can be achieved with higher oral dosing. Granted, there could be gastrointestinal side effects when taking high doses of SARMs orally. But guess what, you should not take high doses in the first place. This is because safety of high doses has not been established for SARMs. In fact, all the human trials have used very low doses. High-dose treatment in animal studies has produced profound toxicity, but unsurprisingly these studies have not been published.



On the other hand, moderate to high-doses of anabolic steroids (e.g. 600mg of test) in humans have been tested and found to be safe. That is, steroids do not produce side effects beyond those that are due to androgen receptor activation. SARMs may have further side effects due to their differing chemical structure, which allow them to act not only as a (partial) AR ligand, but also to have off-target activity.



Steroids are both more effective and safer than SARMs. Selectivity towards muscle tissue rather than androgenic tissues (e.g prostate) can be achieved by altering steroidal structure. Take for example Primobolan vs. Testosterone. In fact, much of the tissue selectivity of SARMs is simply due to them circumventing 5alpha-reductase, much like with structurally altered steroids (see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17339601).

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[Rogue]

Sarms are best compared to a MILD steroid that does NOT aromatize.
So we all know the specific range those work in...
That being said, they do work well in women.
Ladies can keep a positive E/androgen ratio because they independently produce E in the ovaries.
Their HPTA can accommodate to the increases of androgen to an extent.

 

[Freedom15Muscle]

He's an attention whore. Trying to reinvent the wheel. Taking grams of gear and selling kids SARMs.

SARMs are a failure. Were supposed to be less sides then AAS, but have proved to be quote the contrary. It has been more sides and less results then AAS. I have witnessed it over and over. For those that don't want to inject, they are an option but if your going to take gear anyway, DON'T bother is my opinion.

I agree with you for the most part but I haven't seen them to cause more sides?

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[ELIMINATOR]

I've seen women powerlifters have great success with SARMS. Osta didn't do much for me, but it might have been fake and I didn't take a high dose. The injectable thing peaked my interest, but they do seem more risky than traditional anabolics that we know what to expect with regards to gains and side effects.

 

[Freedom15Muscle]

I've seen women powerlifters have great success with SARMS. Osta didn't do much for me, but it might have been fake and I didn't take a high dose. The injectable thing peaked my interest, but they do seem more risky than traditional anabolics that we know what to expect with regards to gains and side effects.

I can understand that. They are quite new compared to what everyone knows already works. I had good luck with them, but this would be a risky time considering peaking interest around the subject. Fakes will more than likely be common.

I ordered raws and struck out twice before finding some that weren't baking soda lol.

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[notorius]

I can understand that. They are quite new compared to what everyone knows already works. I had good luck with them, but this would be a risky time considering peaking interest around the subject. Fakes will more than likely be common.

I ordered raws and struck out twice before finding some that weren't baking soda lol.

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I have sent you a PM.

 

[Elvia1023]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8rvoLVilI

 

[lif22]

He's an attention whore. Trying to reinvent the wheel. Taking grams of gear and selling kids SARMs.

SARMs are a failure. Were supposed to be less sides then AAS, but have proved to be quote the contrary. It has been more sides and less results then AAS. I have witnessed it over and over. For those that don't want to inject, they are an option but if your going to take gear anyway, DON'T bother is my opinion.

The only sides i have seen are suppression and lipids which bounce back easy. Other than that ZERO sides. No liver issues, hair, prostate nothing. They are definitely mild but LGD can give you 5-7 pounds of quality muscle with the right diet. They are a first generation drug and will only get better. I believe they have a place today for the day to day natural gym guy who wants to put on a few pounds.

 

[RamboStallone]

The only sides i have seen are suppression and lipids which bounce back easy. Other than that ZERO sides. No liver issues, hair, prostate nothing. They are definitely mild but LGD can give you 5-7 pounds of quality muscle with the right diet. They are a first generation drug and will only get better. I believe they have a place today for the day to day natural gym guy who wants to put on a few pounds.

The whole point was to avoid the side effects that come with AAS. You may not experience all side effects. Some have had liver go up and other issues as if they were taking gear. Like I mentioned prior, for someone who is going to take gear anyway they are not worth much but ppl can stack whatever they like. For those that don't want to pin they are a good alternative. They just did not live up to their intention/expectation in my opinion.

 

[felixx]

I've seen women powerlifters have great success with SARMS. Osta didn't do much for me, but it might have been fake and I didn't take a high dose. The injectable thing peaked my interest, but they do seem more risky than traditional anabolics that we know what to expect with regards to gains and side effects.

This is what stood out for me too on my brief online 'research'. Found that it could be easily contaminated with something else so you're never sure if you're getting something else that's harmful inside your body and that there are already one too many stories (so much so that it is listed **broken link removed** as a genuine concern). And that's on top of supposedly bad effects such as testosterone suppression, liver, kidney failure, etc...

 

[T-800]

Basic AAS/GH/Slin and caloric surplus+diet works, why fuck with anything else?

Amen to that

 

[notorius]

Fuck, I watch his videos all the time. Of course he's crazy, but so are most of us sticking harpoons of oil in our bodies multiple times a week. Haha can't really comment on the trannies... I mean if that's what hes into?

I have tried injectable SARMS and they are quite impressive. A different monster than oral suspension for sure. SR9009 works well, but needs to be dosed frequently because of half life. S22 is also very strong. SARMS are great if you have legit raws and dose them correctly. Do they take the place of steroids? No, but they very well might at some point in time. I wouldn't write them off.

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[5millionbucks]

I think Sarms can be used during PCT; only the very basic ones like Andarine and Ostarine. I posted a lil while ago my bloodwork on 8 weeks of Andarine at 50mg per day; my baseline t was 404; after 8 weeks at 50mg my baseline was at 320. I don't hender them useless because they provide some boost especially for people who haven't really dabbled in steroids or aren't running crazy cycles. If you've been running over 1k of gear a week obviously it is useless.

 

[Newkidontheblock]

Finally that unhappy dude died? Oh, I had no idea, I remember seeing a go found me for help, I don't know if it was in this forum.

No.
He’s alive and well and lives in Los Angeles now. He has a steroid podcast. Dude does 1gram + dosages and isn’t that impressive. Also, created a steroid ebook.

 

[Newkidontheblock]

I agree with you for the most part but I haven't seen them to cause more sides?

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I had blood work done while using Ostarine. All labs came back clean and on point, liver enzymes normal, nothing out of range.. Excellent sense of well being and strength gains. Obviously nothing compared to AAS but, still noticeable.
The positive wellbeing feeling was different from AAS.

They do have value.