drostanolone ceiling effect???????????

[Arko.]

working with precomp client, he's using drost. prop and drost. e. In the past he's used 600mg/wk with very favorable effects, but this time he's up in the 1200mg/wk range.
My question is .. has anyone noticed a great difference between taking it in this high range vs the moderate dose range?

Anyone been up in the 1500-2000mg/wk range? ..side effects??

There is a guy thats been using 4000mg/wk of drostanolone on another hrt site, and he talks about finally feeling 'normal' at that dose.. he takes 100mg/wk of test cyp along with it. anyone out there ever tried this kind of dosage?

anyone ordered drostanolone right from china (not from a bodybuilding source) and gotten all the normal effects from it?? Is it likely that it could be cut with something?

Heard recently that in the past year or two, the powders coming from there have gone down hill.. is there any truth to that rumour??

thnx

 

[Ehren]

600mg Max on a cut, in my experience. If he wants to waste 150mg more to be sure and do 750mg, it wont hurt, but likely won't help. More could make you stronger on a bulk, with lots of food, of course. But over 600mg in a deficit is where I've seen it stop. In fact, even on a bulk too, for me.

I tried going up, but after 600mg, nothing more happened except my prostate hurt

IMO, he'd get more from Winnie at 350mg a week, Inj. or Oral than the other 600mg of Masteron. Or Tren, or NPP, maybe Primobolan.

BTW, what is he expecting from 1200mg of Masteron? It won't burn fat, it won't dry him out. It will make him a harder, stronger fat guy holding *slightly less water.

 

[Arko.]

thanks for the advice, I'll pass it on forsure.
I've used it a number of times as well, but never in super high doses.
I agree adding win. or other would be of more benefit overall forsure but the joint pain from win. isn't worth it, and tren has to many sides.
Reason for trying to go high drost. is to try and get similar effect to taking these others.

I'll give an update after he's around 6 weeks.

 

[Ehren]

Reason for trying to go high drost. is to try and get similar effect to taking these others.

Ok, if he's trying to duplicate Tren (hard to do) he'd be better off combining NPP with Masteron and Winnie. NPP's positive effect on joints will outweigh Winnie's negative. At least that combo does it for me. My favorite cycle is TRT test/Mast/NPP/Oral Winnie. Very hard and strong and zero joint problems. Winnie also acts an anti-prolactin (no gyno) and is very anabolic.
Tren doesn't aromatize, NPP does a little, so he'll likely need to raise his AI a bit, then a lot in the last couple weeks. But that's mostly because of the Gram of Test.

Tren is high androgenic, high anabolic. Mast is just high androgenic, low-to no anabolic effect. So you'd need something with a good anabolic ratio, that's a low water retainer like NPP/Winnie. Some people do better on NPP for strength and lean mass than on Tren.

Say, 600 Mast/600NPP and 50mg Winnie ED. This will give a facsimile of Tren anabolic/androgenic effect. But you can't reproduce Tren's effect on prostaglandins for fat burning. That's Tren's domain alone. For that, he'll be looking to diet, cardio and fat burners.

 

[GND]

NPP = Durabolin??

in the example above, NPP is aka durabolin?

just making sure i am following ur example

thanks,
GND

 

[DevastatingDave]

in the example above, NPP is aka durabolin?

just making sure i am following ur example

thanks,
GND

NPP = Nandrolone Phenyl Propionate.

 

[mcswag]

in the example above, NPP is aka durabolin?

just making sure i am following ur example

thanks,
GND

npp= fast acting version of Deca durabolin

 

[jimmyjones]

NPP = Nandrolone Phenyl Propionate.

Correct.

Nandrolone Decanoate = What they call “Deca”
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate = NPP

NPP = Fast acting, just like Test Prop
Decanoate = Slow as fuck and inefficient.

 

[mikeyt869]

Correct.

Nandrolone Decanoate = What they call “Deca”
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate = NPP

NPP = Fast acting, just like Test Prop
Decanoate = Slow as fuck and inefficient.

Not really. Its perfectly suitable for a hrt client who doesnt want to pin ed or eod but wants some joint pain relief.

 

[jimmyjones]

Youre right...

I guess I was speaking more in terms of higher-dose bodybuilding

600mg of NPP will blow away 600mg of Decanoate.

 

[Ehren]

600mg of NPP will blow away 600mg of Decanoate.

That's been my experience too. NPP makes me strong as hell, right now. And nice and full.

There was a study on here about shorter esters of Test not producing a lot of E2 as longer esters, which we know. But also not raising crit as much either. I wonder if the same is true of NPP. Deca skyrockets my Crit and BP. But I feel good on NPP. No BP issues, less bloat...none actually. Wonder if crit is any lower on it.