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eca vs clen - blood pressure affects

iron lifter

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both ephedrine and clen work the beta receptors. why is it that ephedrine at least for me raises my bp but clen does not ?

i use the clen 20mcg twice a day and taper up 20mcg every 2 weeks max out at 120mcg. i never have bad out of range bp.

but if i take eca stack 1 or 2 times a day its elevated like 138/91?

is it because epehdrine works all 3 of the beta recpetors and clen only beta 2?

i like the eca for energy and appetite suppress affects when dieting , which clen i find doesn't give me.

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From what I remember, unless more research has shown differently over the years, Clen has a much higher affinity for the beta receptors, and most people I know, it effects their BP much more drastically. i'm not sure why yours is lower, maybe somebody else can explain a reason for your results, things are always black and white sometimes....assuming your clen is real or not under-dosed? I love Ephedrine, it's always done me well, especially on long-term use over many months at a time with hardly any negative effects on my BP....for the most part.
 

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I’ve used both but don’t exactly remember how much they actually helped. What’s your opinion on how much they both actually help fatloss with a deficit vs just a deficit?
 

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I never had elevated BP or heart rate on caffeine/bronkaid
 

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From what I remember, unless more research has shown differently over the years, Clen has a much higher affinity for the beta receptors, and most people I know, it effects their BP much more drastically. i'm not sure why yours is lower, maybe somebody else can explain a reason for your results, things are always black and white sometimes....assuming your clen is real or not under-dosed? I love Ephedrine, it's always done me well, especially on long-term use over many months at a time with hardly any negative effects on my BP....for the most part.
Ugh....are NOT
 

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i asked Dave P he said clen dilates the bronchial tubes and drops BP and heart compensates by elevating heart rate. eca is more stimulatory and increases bp, but this is acute momentarily. upon cessation it did return back to normal again.
 

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i asked Dave P he said clen dilates the bronchial tubes and drops BP and heart compensates by elevating heart rate. eca is more stimulatory and increases bp, but this is acute momentarily. upon cessation it did return back to normal again.
Which one has a worse effect on the heart?
 

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Clen makes me feel lethargic, eca gives me energy. They both raise my bp. Clen seems to be more effective in recomp cycles to me. My pick is eca. I would prefer to feel better and just work harder.
 

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well clen is 20mcg to 60mcg used in some countries as an asthma med. so i am not sure they both probably can cause cardio heart damage, but i am not sure if its a result of the elevated bp stress on heart or actual cardiac tissue damage from how they affect the beta receptors.
 

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I never had elevated BP or heart rate on caffeine/bronkaid
wow, I wish I could say the same brother. Both make my eyelids twitch, I also have hypertension, bronkaid really puts some pep in your step, caffeine makes me feel gross after it wears off.

@ironlifter is it via inhaler like albuterol? albuterol did way more for my lungs than oral clen ever did .
 

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i made the mistake of taking clen before i did bike intervals. my heart rate went ABOVE my highest recorded heart rate by 6-8 beats. i ended up almost passing out.
 

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I feel good on Eca. I just tried to use Clen recently. Bad experience. Heart racing all day. Anxiety through the roof and blood pressure was way up. And that was on a super low dose I won’t ever use Clen again
 

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