Echocardiogram & CT Scan

[Swifto]

These 2 tests should be MANDATORY for all AAS/HGH/drug users.

If you find abnormalities, implement correction treatments and courses of action to bring calcification down and increase EF with supplementation, drugs and cardiovascular exercise.

These 2 tests could save your life.

My last CT scan in November 2023 was 0. I need to get another one done.

My echo results are below:

Indication
?NORMAL HEART

Conclusions
1. Sinus rhythm.
2. This was a technically adequate study.
3. Overall left ventricular systolic function is normal with, an EF calculated at 56%. reducced
longitudinal function seen by TDI and GLS of -14%. Normal diastolic study
4. The right ventricle is normal in size and function.
5. The right atrium is normal in size and function.
Findings
ECG rhythm: Sinus rhythm.
Study quality: This was a technically adequate study.
Left Ventricle: The left ventricular size is normal. There is borderline concentric left ventricular
hypertrophy with no RWMAs. Overall left ventricular systolic function is normal with, an EF
calculated at 56%. reducced longitudinal function seen by TDI and GLS of -14%. Normal
diastolic study
Right Ventricle: The right ventricle is normal in size and function.
Left Atrium: Left atrium is normal size by volume.
Right Atrium: The right atrium is normal in size and function.
ASD/VSD: No evidence of interatrial communication by color flow doppler analysis. Interatrial
and interventricular septum intact.
Aortic Valve: The aortic valve is trileaflet, and appears structurally normal. No aortic stenosis
or regurgitation.
Mitral Valve: Normal appearing mitral valve. No mitral regurgitation.
Tricuspid Valve: The tricuspid valve appears structurally normal. Trace tricuspid regurgitation
present.
Pulmonic Valve: The pulmonic valve is normal. Trace/mild (physiologic) pulmonic
regurgitation.
Aorta: The aortic root, ascending aorta and aortic arch are normal.
Pulmonary Artery: The pulmonary artery is normal.
IVC/Hepatic Veins: Normal inferior vena cava with normal inspiratory collapse consistent with
estimated right atrial pressure of 5mmHg.
Pericardium: There is no pericardial effusion.

 

[TODouble2]

My echo last year saved my life for sure.

 

[BBSQ5]

We do a mandatory Echo on all new patients and yearly follow ups for our patients at our Age Rejuvination clinics. Not all providers are the same and preach the same thing about the Calcium CT Scan, but I write referrals for all of mine and here where we live, you can actually cash pay for a scan and not need a referral, unless you’re worried about insurance covering it. The fee is so low and negligible though.

 

[null88]

Issue is can't really go online and order an echo like you can with bloodwork.

 

[Reno911]

OP- why do you need to get another CT when you just had one in 2023?

 

[Jabrontoad]

Issue is can't really go online and order an echo like you can with bloodwork.

lol yes you can, calcium score too.

Go to Mdsave. They're like GoodRx for diagnostic procedures:

https://www.mdsave.com/t/imaging-radiology

Go to "Cardiac Imaging" / Calcium Score

Or can search all tests and find EKG/ECG


Find the facility you want to use.

 

[buck]

lol yes you can, calcium score too.

Go to Mdsave. They're like GoodRx for diagnostic procedures:

https://www.mdsave.com/t/imaging-radiology

Go to "Cardiac Imaging" / Calcium Score

Or can search all tests and find EKG/ECG


Find the facility you want to use.

They are a little more expensive then going through my Dr but at least they are an option. seems the nearest option for me is a few hours drive away.

 

[Swifto]

Issue is can't really go online and order an echo like you can with bloodwork.

If you're in the UK, the Nuffield Hospital (private) do both tests.

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You're looking at about £700-850 for both.

 

[Swifto]

OP- why do you need to get another CT when you just had one in 2023?

It's preference on how often you want to get yours done. I guess I dont NEED it.

Annual, every 2-3 years, etc..

My lipds are good, ApoB was 0.91, LDL was 95.9 on 350mg Test and 350mg EQ without cholesterol drugs. Just diet, low AAS (if you can call 700mh/wk low...) and supplements.

I'd just like to keep tabs on my health and get a handle on everything regularly. I'm 39.

 

[Swifto]

Issue is can't really go online and order an echo like you can with bloodwork.

Even if these tests are every 2-5 years. It's worth doing at least once to see where you are.

 

[pesty4077]

Add Apo B, lipo (a), and Factor V Leiden test. I get extensive bloodwork twice a year.

 

[Liter O' Test]

I actually just had this done last week, twice..

VM: 48/32 mm EF 70% TS/TMP 10/11mm AM/Ao 33/34 mm; V max Ao 1.1m/s EA >1
Left Atrium Normal Interatrial septum intact.
Aortic valve: tricuspids with normal gradients.
AORTA ASC: with normal dimensions. Right cavities in norm. Minimal tricuspid regurgitation.

Left ventricular with endocavitar size, systolic, normal segented function. Patern of normal ventricular filling

"minimal PSAP tricuspidal regurgitation. is not measured"

I should get this redone in a real country, i have a feeling these doctors only know the difference between heart failure and not heart failure

Been on nebivlol... but the stuff wipes me out. asked this cardiologist today about Ivabradine... I'd do it myself already but I'm being a little more careful with the self prescriptions lately.
she said "its not useful in your case" my case is sinus tachyacardia... she probably just read the first thing google says which is heart failure or something..

she said to switch from 2.5mg nebivolol to Verapamil 80mg

 

[KingOfSushi]

I actually just had this done last week, twice..

VM: 48/32 mm EF 70% TS/TMP 10/11mm AM/Ao 33/34 mm; V max Ao 1.1m/s EA >1
Left Atrium Normal Interatrial septum intact.
Aortic valve: tricuspids with normal gradients.
AORTA ASC: with normal dimensions. Right cavities in norm. Minimal tricuspid regurgitation.

Left ventricular with endocavitar size, systolic, normal segented function. Patern of normal ventricular filling

"minimal PSAP tricuspidal regurgitation. is not measured"

I should get this redone in a real country, i have a feeling these doctors only know the difference between heart failure and not heart failure

Been on nebivlol... but the stuff wipes me out. asked this cardiologist today about Ivabradine... I'd do it myself already but I'm being a little more careful with the self prescriptions lately.
she said "its not useful in your case" my case is sinus tachyacardia... she probably just read the first thing google says which is heart failure or something..

she said to switch from 2.5mg nebivolol to Verapamil 80mg

70% EF is incredible. Very nice.

 

[Reno911]

It's preference on how often you want to get yours done. I guess I dont NEED it.

Annual, every 2-3 years, etc..

My lipds are good, ApoB was 0.91, LDL was 95.9 on 350mg Test and 350mg EQ without cholesterol drugs. Just diet, low AAS (if you can call 700mh/wk low...) and supplements.

I'd just like to keep tabs on my health and get a handle on everything regularly. I'm 39.

Since the CT is only picking up hard plaque I dont think it's needed sooner than 5 years. Soft plaque takes 10 years to convert to hard it in less than 5 most likely you're not going to be laying down much hard plaque.

I had a 0 at 48. I will probably do another CT at 54-55 and if it's any higher than 0 I will get a CT angiogram done to see what's going on with the soft plaque.

 

[Liter O' Test]

70% EF is incredible. Very nice.

I still suck at cardio my whole life and have tachycardia and was hypoxic at some point but I have always controlled my BP, so bigger picture not sure, but I plan to make it back to the good ol USA in the near future, or perhaps a smarter european country. I had some diagnostics in romania they seemed pretty sharp

 

[TheOtherOne55]

lol yes you can, calcium score too.

Go to Mdsave. They're like GoodRx for diagnostic procedures:

https://www.mdsave.com/t/imaging-radiology

Go to "Cardiac Imaging" / Calcium Score

Or can search all tests and find EKG/ECG


Find the facility you want to use.

Most of these say u need a doctors order for them though. Just calling that out.

 

[Scorpyd]

My Cardiac Calcium Score test performed in Detroit Michigan cost me 75$ 7 weeks ago.
Lots of competition in that area bringing costs down.

 

[buck]

Do most get a stress echocardiogram done? Or do you have it done separately. The last cardiologist i saw told me that having an echocardiogram done on its' own really doesn't tell you what the heart is doing when it is actually working hard and is kind of worthless.

 

[KingOfSushi]

Do most get a stress echocardiogram done? Or do you have it done separately. The last cardiologist i saw told me that having an echocardiogram done on its' own really doesn't tell you what the heart is doing when it is actually working hard and is kind of worthless.

It’s definitely not worthless. You can still detect tons of abnormalities to the heart with a regular echo, view morphology, get ejection fraction etc.

 

[Crazy_jay]

Most of these say u need a doctors order for them though. Just calling that out.

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But you don't have to. I had a ct chest/neck scan lined up with a company just in case my dr wouldn't order it. They have Dr's that write the order just like online bloodwork orders and they have specialists that read the results. Full price was on par with what it cost through my dr except insurance paid for most of it with my dr.

I had spoken with green imaging. https://greenimaging.net/

They started hounding me about getting the procedure done. These companies like money and have expensive equipment. They aren't looking to turn people away. In the end I didn't need them.