EDC / Gym Carry setups

[abt10]

I think open carry just makes you a target when theres no reason to be.

facts.. multiple videos of people having their pieces taken from them..
was in a store a few weeks back.. this female was carrying in the small of her back.
she was in front of me while standing in line.
any person with mal-intent could have taken it and nothing she could do about.
now if she holding something else on her person, then yeah, the perpetrator would have issues.
point is, and to your point, open carry just makes one a target.

 

[buck]

I think open carry just makes you a target when theres no reason to be.

Some think that. I have never in my decades read a story in my state of someone having their gun grabbed. My opinion is it does not help the pro 2A cause. As most don't do it and will just be put off moderates seeing people wandering around the town with a gun strapped on their hip. Much less the guys that have their AR slung across their backs. People at either end of the spectrum are already well entrenched in their thinking. I try to swing moderates over to my side on a wide range of topics as that is the only way to grow the cause.

 

[Mufasa123]

If someone is open carrying outside of the wilderness - retention holster is a good idea. Even in wilderness it's nice to have locked in. Safariland is my go to for any retention. ALS is more than sufficient. Lots of LEO add the SLS hood for 2 forms.

If you are hands on with someone, odds of them going for your weapons is not insignificant at all and very likely (if I'm attacking without my own weapons I'm preventing you from accessing yours and trying to get them myself if possible or just disable you until I can). Much harder for a non wearer to defeat the retention devices as they are setup to heavily favor the wearer. Should probably also have other accessible weapons so you can protect pistol and access/use those on enemy with off hand (fixed blade centerline or one hand deplorable folder, not as good, on off side). Just saying as someone who's done a lot of force on force training.

Ideally don't go there, don't wear visible weapons, don't get into it, avoid, keep space/distance, use non lethal at range, draw first/go first but if all else goes south and it's shit show...then above.

 

[southernmucle214]

Some think that. I have never in my decades read a story in my state of someone having their gun grabbed. My opinion is it does not help the pro 2A cause. As most don't do it and will just be put off moderates seeing people wandering around the town with a gun strapped on their hip. Much less the guys that have their AR slung across their backs. People at either end of the spectrum are already well entrenched in their thinking. I try to swing moderates over to my side on a wide range of topics as that is the only way to grow the cause.

There are videos of it happening, but typically it happens to someone who is carrying without a holster and just has the gun in their waistband

 

[WskyCowboy]

Some think that. I have never in my decades read a story in my state of someone having their gun grabbed. My opinion is it does not help the pro 2A cause. As most don't do it and will just be put off moderates seeing people wandering around the town with a gun strapped on their hip. Much less the guys that have their AR slung across their backs. People at either end of the spectrum are already well entrenched in their thinking. I try to swing moderates over to my side on a wide range of topics as that is the only way to grow the cause.

I dont mean just a target by a bad guy, but because guns in public draw negative attention or even fear you become watched alot more and more eyes isn't ever a good thing either.

 

[Brock456]

facts.. multiple videos of people having their pieces taken from them..
was in a store a few weeks back.. this female was carrying in the small of her back.
she was in front of me while standing in line.
any person with mal-intent could have taken it and nothing she could do about.
now if she holding something else on her person, then yeah, the perpetrator would have issues.
point is, and to your point, open carry just makes one a target.

This just screams idiot.
If you’re “open carrying” in the small of your back, you’re just asking for trouble.

 

[Sectør]

I think open carry just makes you a target when theres no reason to be.

I’d agree with this.

Concealed gives you the element of surprise if there is a situation. If you’re open carrying, you might just be the first one they go after so they don’t have to worry about it after, then they would have the element of surprise

Also private businesses can ask you to leave if you’re open carrying, and if you refuse to comply then you’re armed trespassing, which is a felony.

Better to just avoid the headache and attention all together and just keep it concealed.

The nice part about the open carry law though is it permits permit-less carry if I’m not mistaken?

 

[buck]

There are videos of it happening, but typically it happens to someone who is carrying without a holster and just has the gun in their waistband

I understand. A see videos of pitbulls attacking people. But in many thousands of days of being around pitbull i have never seen them attack any person. I take things in their context the best i can and don't let a few vids online sway my thinking of how often things actually happen. Many people think violence and homicides are rampant. But in my life time according to FBI stats there were far more in the early 90's i read many days if not most back then about drive by shooting in the large metro area i live in. And dropped almost 1/2 by about 2018 then started up again with covid spurring things along. And have now been on a decline for going on 2 years last i checked.

 

[buck]

I’d agree with this.

Concealed gives you the element of surprise if there is a situation. If you’re open carrying, you might just be the first one they go after so they don’t have to worry about it after, then they would have the element of surprise

Also private businesses can ask you to leave if you’re open carrying, and if you refuse to comply then you’re armed trespassing, which is a felony.

Better to just avoid the headache and attention all together and just keep it concealed.

The nice part about the open carry law though is it permits permit-less carry if I’m not mistaken?

In my state carrying a gun while trespassing is just a gross misdemeanor. And would get knocked way down most likely if the person left as soon as the cops showed up.

 

[Brock456]

I’d agree with this.

Concealed gives you the element of surprise if there is a situation. If you’re open carrying, you might just be the first one they go after so they don’t have to worry about it after, then they would have the element of surprise

Also private businesses can ask you to leave if you’re open carrying, and if you refuse to comply then you’re armed trespassing, which is a felony.

Better to just avoid the headache and attention all together and just keep it concealed.

The nice part about the open carry law though is it permits permit-less carry if I’m not mistaken?

I would argue this goes both ways.

Open carrying also tells someone who might be thinking of robbing you or committing a crime to think otherwise.

I think it goes both ways.

Personally I think I’d go with concealed carry bc I don’t think anyone else needs to know. But my state only allows concealed carry so I don’t have the option to open carry.

 

[southernmucle214]

I understand. A see videos of pitbulls attacking people. But in many thousands of days of being around pitbull i have never seen them attack any person. I take things in their context the best i can and don't let a few vids online sway my thinking of how often things actually happen. Many people think violence and homicides are rampant. But in my life time according to FBI stats there were far more in the early 90's i read many days if not most back then about drive by shooting in the large metro area i live in. And dropped almost 1/2 by about 2018 then started up again with covid spurring things along. And have now been on a decline for going on 2 years last i checked.

Are you saying that if you don't personally see something happen you don't believe it happens frequently?

 

[dieselbuilder]

Does anyone here open carry? I am about 20 minutes outside a major city.. only a couple of times I have seen people in areas that are 45 mins outside of the city open carry. I’m guessing they do it more in the rural areas but I have been all over this country and have barely seen it.

I don’t intend to do it at all. I am just curious about people’s experiences.

 

[tenny]

Does anyone here open carry? I am about 20 minutes outside a major city.. only a couple of times I have seen people in areas that are 45 mins outside of the city open carry. I’m guessing they do it more in the rural areas but I have been all over this country and have barely seen it.

I don’t intend to do it at all. I am just curious about people’s experiences.

i only open carry on my own property. but im in a concealed state.
have a friend wanted a famous "AR15"....i told him buy the lower, and lets build one.
so he bought all the parts, (he knows nothing about firearms) i finish the piece.
i told him "come over so i can go over some things"....he did. i came out with 3 concealed
hand guns on me, and each time i pulled one out he was amazed....i said..see you never know.

 

[Jefe]

couple weeks ago, i couldnt sleep(around 1am), so i went to the corner store for a some snacks.
as i walk in, i see the store is being robbed by some YNs...

What’s YN?

Desielbulder… about 10 years ago in PA I saw some old fart open carrying a 1911 hammer cocked at movie theater at like 2 in the afternoon in the middle of nowhere, coal region.

I can’t think of other time.

 

[Blshaw]

I think open carry just makes you a target when theres no reason to be.

Agreed. I’m also not looking to make people uncomfortable just because I can.

 

[Bleed]

I had to shoot a pitbull. It was quartering a small dog and attacked the owner and someone else.

1 round for the victim dog. 2 for the pitbull. The pitbull took a .45 hollow point to the side and sat right back up. One more round to the head ended that ugliness.

And before anyone comes at me for the second round, that dog now had a dog death (ugly way to die being quartered alive when you were just going for a walk) and a attacked 2 humans. I wasnt letting it live.

I carry more for big dogs offleash than I do other people. The dirtbags I run into peacock and run their mouths, by and large they cant fight and they are comprised of 140 pounds of garbage food and 8oz domestic beers. These dogs...you arent winning. You dont have a chance of defending yourself against even a 60 pound pitbull.

If I had small children, there is no way I would let them play outside of a fenced in yard. Absolutely none.

Keep your dogs on a leash.

I understand. A see videos of pitbulls attacking people. But in many thousands of days of being around pitbull i have never seen them attack any person. I take things in their context the best i can and don't let a few vids online sway my thinking of how often things actually happen. Many people think violence and homicides are rampant. But in my life time according to FBI stats there were far more in the early 90's i read many days if not most back then about drive by shooting in the large metro area i live in. And dropped almost 1/2 by about 2018 then started up again with covid spurring things along. And have now been on a decline for going on 2 years last i checked.

 

[alfresco]

lets see your ever day carry and gym bag carries! I typically have mine a vertx sling with my LFA Apollo X. Ill drop that setup tonight, here is my EDC for today:
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[dieselbuilder]

I had to shoot a pitbull. It was quartering a small dog and attacked the owner and someone else.

1 round for the victim dog. 2 for the pitbull. The pitbull took a .45 hollow point to the side and sat right back up. One more round to the head ended that ugliness.

And before anyone comes at me for the second round, that dog now had a dog death (ugly way to die being quartered alive when you were just going for a walk) and a attacked 2 humans. I wasnt letting it live.

I carry more for big dogs offleash than I do other people. The dirtbags I run into peacock and run their mouths, by and large they cant fight and they are comprised of 140 pounds of garbage food and 8oz domestic beers. These dogs...you arent winning. You dont have a chance of defending yourself against even a 60 pound pitbull.

If I had small children, there is no way I would let them play outside of a fenced in yard. Absolutely none.

Keep your dogs on a leash.

Yes. That is what I mentioned earlier in the thread: a lot of gun people carry bc of dogs and other non-human threats… but mostly dogs.

Good work. It’s tough but that’s how it’s done.

May I ask what the pitbulls owner did? Any fallout?

 

[buck]

Are you saying that if you don't personally see something happen you don't believe it happens frequently?

I go by the best unbiased data i can find when making decisions in life and keep my feeling out of decision making as feeling can change.

I had to shoot a pitbull. It was quartering a small dog and attacked the owner and someone else.

1 round for the victim dog. 2 for the pitbull. The pitbull took a .45 hollow point to the side and sat right back up. One more round to the head ended that ugliness.

And before anyone comes at me for the second round, that dog now had a dog death (ugly way to die being quartered alive when you were just going for a walk) and a attacked 2 humans. I wasnt letting it live.

I carry more for big dogs offleash than I do other people. The dirtbags I run into peacock and run their mouths, by and large they cant fight and they are comprised of 140 pounds of garbage food and 8oz domestic beers. These dogs...you arent winning. You dont have a chance of defending yourself against even a 60 pound pitbull.

If I had small children, there is no way I would let them play outside of a fenced in yard. Absolutely none.

Keep your dogs on a leash.

I went to off leash parks on a daily basis for 15 years, broke up more dog fights then can count, no serious damage was ever done. I find dogs are like people most really don't know how to fight well. I have also had my dog attacked when walking on leash at parks. Mostly the same out come. Couple times a pit has clamped down and wouldn't let go. But reaching in and cutting off the carotid artery. Couple times i have kicked the shit out of a pit that was going for my dog till the owner got their leash back on them. I have had experiences where there were innocent people down range during these occasions so letting bullets fly was not a good choice. The police respond very quickly when pitbull attacks are called in i find.

 

[Bleed]

It was a neighbor. Unfortunately or fortunately it was early morning and the entire street saw it. So when the police finally showed up, the said "yeah, that was the smart thing to do" and pulled my gun to scan to it then gave it back.

A guy came running the down street with his rifle but he got halfway and heard gun shots and headed back home.

No continuing issues for myself except that the two women involved were insistent on praying with me. I declined politely the first time. The second time that conversation went much differently.

Yes. That is what I mentioned earlier in the thread: a lot of gun people carry bc of dogs and other non-human threats… but mostly dogs.

Good work. It’s tough but that’s how it’s done.

May I ask what the pitbulls owner did? Any fallout?