EDC / Gym Carry setups

[fisther69]

I work out mostly in my barn…so, my dog..a log of Copenhagen..I workout in crocs a lot

 

[Mufasa123]

Just for reference. Current EDC from former Navy/Teams/Tier 1 guy. Ran Blackwater's training for Eric Prince (founder and former SEAL Team 8) in the heyday and obviously very notable career before and after.

 

[Mufasa123]

I love the protac it's a great light without dropping surefire money

Totally agree. Lots of others do as well including guy I posted above. Fricking great product but newer ones I have don't stand on tail vertically as well - rubber button isn't as recessed in crown. Small gripe but kind of nice to illuminate a room for myself/others while I use my hands.

I really liked the Surefire Defender and, as a light can be my only carry at times, it's far better at striking. At $230 a pop after my 3rd one I just stopped.

I have one of Streamlight's big rechargeable lights too (belt kit not low viz). Even that wasn't as expensive as the small Surefire. I do have the Surefire X300 (higher output one) on my carbine. Rocking little bomb proof light and cheaper than a Scout light.

 

[fisther69]

Just for reference. Current EDC from former Navy/Teams/Tier 1 guy. Ran Blackwater's training for Eric Prince (founder and former SEAL Team 8) in the heyday and obviously very notable career before and after.

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I’ll be serious for a moment.

The Glock 19 is the gun..I have probably over 600 firearms of all different kinds..I have an entire wall of STI/staccatos….i have all kinds of badass shit.

When I walk out the door and pick up a firearm to conceal and I bet my families life on it? It is 100% of the time a Glock 19. Typically a gen 4 (gen 5 is better, but I like this one) that a local business cut for an acro, and ported through the slide(mainly for my wife) has a 15lb recoil spring for the ports. I also grinded off the finger grooves and textured it..no aftermarket triggers or anything.

The Glock 19 in my opinion is the best defense handgun ever made with the Glock 17 and 34 right behind it…you can spend as much money as you want…and I have..but you aren’t beating a Glock in 9mm that accepts standard double stack mags…period

 

[WskyCowboy]

I’ll be serious for a moment.

The Glock 19 is the gun..I have probably over 600 firearms of all different kinds..I have an entire wall of STI/staccatos….i have all kinds of badass shit.

When I walk out the door and pick up a firearm to conceal and I bet my families life on it? It is 100% of the time a Glock 19. Typically a gen 4 (gen 5 is better, but I like this one) that a local business cut for an acro, and ported through the slide(mainly for my wife) has a 15lb recoil spring for the ports. I also grinded off the finger grooves and textured it..no aftermarket triggers or anything.

The Glock 19 in my opinion is the best defense handgun ever made with the Glock 17 and 34 right behind it…you can spend as much money as you want…and I have..but you aren’t beating a Glock in 9mm that accepts standard double stack mags…period

see as much as I see the Glock as the end all be all gun, I have never liked it and I had a few 19s, but im a sig and 2011 guy at heart LOL
but I can't argue your opinion at all. haha
nice carry!!

 

[P30LEM]

see as much as I see the Glock as the end all be all gun, I have never liked it and I had a few 19s, but im a sig and 2011 guy at heart LOL
but I can't argue your opinion at all. haha
nice carry!!

Glocks are great but they're not perfect (no firearm system is). They used to be the cheapest option and among the most reliable at the time they were introduced. They have by far the most robust aftermarket support to this day. But now so many companies are offering ultra reliable striker fired polymer framed guns, with more desirable features at similar price points, that it's hard to go wrong.

 

[fisther69]

see as much as I see the Glock as the end all be all gun, I have never liked it and I had a few 19s, but im a sig and 2011 guy at heart LOL
but I can't argue your opinion at all. haha
nice carry!!

I spent a career in SF..I had the option the carry sigs and I never did..we played with a lot of 2011’s and I personally own probably over 60 of them..all sti/staccato and atlas..they are great..but when it comes to to reliability and simplicity..I am only carrying a Glock.

I will say I played with a lot of sigs post military..I was one of the first to get a sig p320 spectre comp..it completely exploded at a range day with less than 800 rounds through it..a sig rep was there when it happened and took it from me..had the engineers do a full diagnosis on what happened and within 2 weeks I had a new weapon..I asked for a p320 maxx in return though..that one still runs like a damn sewing machine..sig may not really stand behind their product for a lot of people..but they really took care of me

 

[fisther69]

Glocks are great but they're not perfect (no firearm system is). They used to be the cheapest option and among the most reliable at the time they were introduced. They have by far the most robust aftermarket support to this day. But now so many companies are offering ultra reliable striker fired polymer framed guns, with more desirable features at similar price points, that it's hard to go wrong.

As far as reliability is concerned I feel that the only Striker fired gun that is as reliable as Glock is the S&W M&P..I say that based on MY sample size alone..I spend almost every day on the flat range and shoot house with groups..I’ve never seen a Glock or M&P fail that were factory stock except for worn out magazine springs.

 

[P30LEM]

As far as reliability is concerned I feel that the only Striker fired gun that is as reliable as Glock is the S&W M&P..I say that based on MY sample size alone..I spend almost every day on the flat range and shoot house with groups..I’ve never seen a Glock or M&P fail that were factory stock except for worn out magazine springs.

Sounds like we train very similarly. My experience - I see Glock, M&P, and HK all to be extremely reliable. There are other great options but I put these at the top. I will say the HKs go significantly longer without needing parts replacements or magazine replacements. I see slightly more failures with Glocks overall, but I believe that has more to do with the fact that the overall number of them being used is higher, more likely to see failures just by sheer numbers of use. It's a good time to be a gun owner. Lots of great options.

 

[P30LEM]

As far as reliability is concerned I feel that the only Striker fired gun that is as reliable as Glock is the S&W M&P..I say that based on MY sample size alone..I spend almost every day on the flat range and shoot house with groups..I’ve never seen a Glock or M&P fail that were factory stock except for worn out magazine springs.

So true about keeping things stock too - it drives me crazy when guys say guns are unreliable after changing out all the OEM parts.

 

[Mufasa123]

My Glocks are all stock outside of real sights on them. Lots of rounds through them and only issue is routine maintenance. I don't have an armorer nor am I one (just never bothered) so I'll have them redone and gone through and parts replaced. Carry mags get treated like "precious" unless I need to use them. Training mags are numbered and get beat on some but mag failures are rare.

Had a Glock 31 in 357 Sig for a bit - required. Whole batch came with shit mags and we had to send them back (earlier/later mags were fine but whole line was jamming up). Done with that, sold it and now 9mm again.

I did carry a P320 when it came out for 2 years. I liked it and just wanted to try it. Zero failures. I eventually sold it and went back to my Glocks as was always the plan. Too invested $$ in that platform.

Agree in Glock, M&P and HK reliability. 1911s and 2011s are fun but if it's a fighting gun then it's one of those for me. Defend my life, any pistol out of the box unseen and untested. I'll take a 9mm Glock Gen 3 all day.

 

[Mufasa123]

Forgot on my Glocks I do use some frame stippling that I'll do myself. No internals changed. Nothing psycho aggressive or fancy but basically for support hand under trigger guard and further ahead on frame.

Long ago now...we were doing some split times and the only people who could stay decently on target (basically safe) and meet 0.25 second splits had support hand stippling or grip tape there. The whole group was good shooters too, I was was probably near bottom. Myself and all others without it didn't solidly get below 0.5 secs. Took the hint and stippled them up a few days later.

 

[Fa Seeshus]

Forgot on my Glocks I do use some frame stippling that I'll do myself. No internals changed. Nothing psycho aggressive or fancy but basically for support hand under trigger guard and further ahead on frame.

Long ago now...we were doing some split times and the only people who could stay decently on target (basically safe) and meet 0.25 second splits had support hand stippling or grip tape there. The whole group was good shooters too, I was was probably near bottom. Myself and all others without it didn't solidly get below 0.5 secs. Took the hint and stippled them up a few days later.

Handle it Edge grips are a decent stippling alternative.

On the glocks i like the new backstraps that give a 1911 grip angle and magwells that give some pinky real estate.

 

[Mufasa123]

This is another EDC from one of the Shivworks guys. This is Craig Douglas' company. Lots of force on force training, simulated real world encounters, de-escalstion, Blade work, single man room clearing (sux) and/or movement inside structures, low light etc...

It's a good follow for anyone interested.

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[badguy]

Just for reference. Current EDC from former Navy/Teams/Tier 1 guy. Ran Blackwater's training for Eric Prince (founder and former SEAL Team 8) in the heyday and obviously very notable career before and after.

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Love that watch Mufasa…what kind?
Major watch fan!
Thanks

 

[Mufasa123]

Love that watch Mufasa…what kind?
Major watch fan!
Thanks

There's a whole story here, I've heard pieces and probably the whole thing from him over time but I remembered maybe 10% of it. Rather than give you fubar info I looked it all back up as it's pretty cool and for you to notice it. You are a serious watch guy so I'd rather give it to you right.

This was Rudy Boesch's watch - one of the first SEALs from underwater demo. Super long amazing career and I'd do an injustice to even try to summarize so check out the wiki on his mil career (he was also the SEAL on Survivor though I don't watch reality tv much) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Boesch

This is the watch backstory, model on how Kyle got it so copied this below. I don't know much on the WoE thing as I'm not a watch guy really. GShock with big numbers that I can read at a glance and a few functions for me. I owned the original G Shock as a kid when it came out:

Pics from @watchesofespionage

"Navy Special Mission Unit Seiko: Guest post from Kyle Defoor. Kyle is a former SEAL Team Six assaulter/sniper and this is his personal Seiko he still wears to this day. The patch/flag are his that he wore in Afghanistan.

The Seiko was originally issued to legendary SEAL, Rudy Boesch in the 1970's at SEAL Team 2. In the mid 90's Kyle's father attended the SEAL reunion after Kyle had just returned from a deployment. Rudy's watch was one of the auction items to support the SEAL association/family fund. Kyle's dad won the watch and gave the watch to him for his birthday that year.

Kyle took the watch to Afghanistan in the early days and still wears it regularly for PT and training. It’s a tool.

This is a legendary watch that embodies the ethos of "watches of espionage" and an honor for me to post it here. Kyle has had an incredible career and I would argue that his greatest legacy will be the thousands of servicemen and civilian government personnel he has trained since leaving the Teams. Thank you Kyle. @defoorproformanceshooting" -W.O.E.

 

[fisther69]

There's a whole story here, I've heard pieces and probably the whole thing from him over time but I remembered maybe 10% of it. Rather than give you fubar info I looked it all back up as it's pretty cool and for you to notice it. You are a serious watch guy so I'd rather give it to you right.

This was Rudy Boesch's watch - one of the first SEALs from underwater demo. Super long amazing career and I'd do an injustice to even try to summarize so check out the wiki on his mil career (he was also the SEAL on Survivor though I don't watch reality tv much) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Boesch

This is the watch backstory, model on how Kyle got it so copied this below. I don't know much on the WoE thing as I'm not a watch guy really. GShock with big numbers that I can read at a glance and a few functions for me. I owned the original G Shock as a kid when it came out:

Pics from @watchesofespionage

"Navy Special Mission Unit Seiko: Guest post from Kyle Defoor. Kyle is a former SEAL Team Six assaulter/sniper and this is his personal Seiko he still wears to this day. The patch/flag are his that he wore in Afghanistan.

The Seiko was originally issued to legendary SEAL, Rudy Boesch in the 1970's at SEAL Team 2. In the mid 90's Kyle's father attended the SEAL reunion after Kyle had just returned from a deployment. Rudy's watch was one of the auction items to support the SEAL association/family fund. Kyle's dad won the watch and gave the watch to him for his birthday that year.

Kyle took the watch to Afghanistan in the early days and still wears it regularly for PT and training. It’s a tool.

This is a legendary watch that embodies the ethos of "watches of espionage" and an honor for me to post it here. Kyle has had an incredible career and I would argue that his greatest legacy will be the thousands of servicemen and civilian government personnel he has trained since leaving the Teams. Thank you Kyle. @defoorproformanceshooting" -W.O.E.

Bro, watches are such a damn part of the SOF culture that I never understood..I wore one because I had to..haven’t worn one since I got out..have a shitload that I used while in and was gifted..but I don’t wear them.

It drives my wife nuts that I won’t wear a watch..we recently came to an agreement that I would wear a watch if she got me the exact watch and band that Danny archer wore in blood diamonds…she’s in negotiations with her watch dealer about it now..it pisses her off to no end because I think I currently have at least 4 breitlings now and I’ve never worn any of them lol

 

[Mufasa123]

Bro, watches are such a damn part of the SOF culture that I never understood..I wore one because I had to..haven’t worn one since I got out..have a shitload that I used while in and was gifted..but I don’t wear them.

It drives my wife nuts that I won’t wear a watch..we recently came to an agreement that I would wear a watch if she got me the exact watch and band that Danny archer wore in blood diamonds…she’s in negotiations with her watch dealer about it now..it pisses her off to no end because I think I currently have at least 4 breitlings now and I’ve never worn any of them lol

I am 100% with you. I should have phrased - if I have to wear or need to wear a watch... Then G Shock. I probably haven't had one on in many months, can't even remember. Phone is fine and usually I'm in benign nice areas and conditions. I do wear my Whoop band as I like all the data.

 

[fisther69]

I am 100% with you. I should have phrased - if I have to wear or need to wear a watch... Then G Shock. I probably haven't had one on in many months, can't even remember. Phone is fine and usually I'm in benign nice areas and conditions. I do wear my Whoop band as I like all the data.

My toddler walks around with my G shock that took the most abuse..he’s either wearing it or it’s his toy box lol

 

[badguy]

There's a whole story here, I've heard pieces and probably the whole thing from him over time but I remembered maybe 10% of it. Rather than give you fubar info I looked it all back up as it's pretty cool and for you to notice it. You are a serious watch guy so I'd rather give it to you right.

This was Rudy Boesch's watch - one of the first SEALs from underwater demo. Super long amazing career and I'd do an injustice to even try to summarize so check out the wiki on his mil career (he was also the SEAL on Survivor though I don't watch reality tv much) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Boesch

This is the watch backstory, model on how Kyle got it so copied this below. I don't know much on the WoE thing as I'm not a watch guy really. GShock with big numbers that I can read at a glance and a few functions for me. I owned the original G Shock as a kid when it came out:

Pics from @watchesofespionage

"Navy Special Mission Unit Seiko: Guest post from Kyle Defoor. Kyle is a former SEAL Team Six assaulter/sniper and this is his personal Seiko he still wears to this day. The patch/flag are his that he wore in Afghanistan.

The Seiko was originally issued to legendary SEAL, Rudy Boesch in the 1970's at SEAL Team 2. In the mid 90's Kyle's father attended the SEAL reunion after Kyle had just returned from a deployment. Rudy's watch was one of the auction items to support the SEAL association/family fund. Kyle's dad won the watch and gave the watch to him for his birthday that year.

Kyle took the watch to Afghanistan in the early days and still wears it regularly for PT and training. It’s a tool.

This is a legendary watch that embodies the ethos of "watches of espionage" and an honor for me to post it here. Kyle has had an incredible career and I would argue that his greatest legacy will be the thousands of servicemen and civilian government personnel he has trained since leaving the Teams. Thank you Kyle. @defoorproformanceshooting" -W.O.E.

That’s an awesome explanation!
Boesch is the longest SEAL served and its his watch…now that’s badass!