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Equipoise works as an AI? True or false

aminofreak

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Some blood work ive had in the past while using tren showed crazy high Estradiol. As high as 614. Obviously tren does not aromatize, but what it can do is give a false reading due to cross reactivity on the immunassay.

After doing a little more research on the effectiveness of boldenone lowering Estradiol, I read that boldenone actually can create the same result as a false low.

Im not making any claims weather it does or doesn't, but I think its worth a deeper look and more discussion.

Any thoughts?
 
A lot of guys use eq to assist in controlling estrogen. Make sure to get the extra sensitive estrogen test when pulling bloods, especially on tren, will give false readings
 
A lot of guys use eq to assist in controlling estrogen. Make sure to get the extra sensitive estrogen test when pulling bloods, especially on tren, will give false readings
So this is just the thing. I always have high sensitive estrogen tests done. Estradiol was at 109 before adding tren, but after 6 weeks of adding tren I tested at 614.

Everyone knows that's not accurate, I would've grown tits amongst all sorts of other issues. It was just a false reading.

My question is How do we know that equipoise isn't giving the same false reading?

Here is a copy and paste from chat gpt:

Got you — let’s reset it cleanly and tie it all together without the noise.
Equipoise (Boldenone) & Estrogen — what’s really happening
Key point first:
👉 Equipoise is not an aromatase inhibitor.
It does not block the aromatase enzyme the way Arimidex, Letro, or Aromasin do.
So why does EQ get talked about like it “controls estrogen”?
1️⃣ EQ aromatizes… but weakly
Boldenone does convert to estrogen, just at a much lower rate than testosterone.
Test → readily converts to estradiol (E2)
EQ → converts slowly and inconsistently
On paper, that should mean less estrogen issues.
In reality… it gets weird.
2️⃣ EQ messes with estrogen reading, not always estrogen levels
This is the big misunderstanding.
EQ produces estrogen metabolites that:
Confuse standard E2 blood assays
Can show false lows or false highs
Don’t always reflect what your tissues are actually experiencing
So labs might say:
“E2 is fine” → but you feel low-E symptoms
or “E2 is insane” → but you don’t feel high-E
That’s why EQ is notorious for disconnect between labs and symptoms.
3️⃣ Why people feel low estrogen on EQ
Even when labs look “normal,” guys often report:
Dry joints
Flat pumps
Low libido
Mood blunting
Erectile issues
Why?
Boldenone binds androgen receptors strongly and:
Alters estrogen signaling at the tissue level
Changes how estrogen is used, not just how much exists
Can create functional estrogen deficiency
So estrogen is there… it’s just not doing its job properly.
4️⃣ Why EQ can spike estrogen labs (like what you saw)
This part applies directly to you.
When you add EQ on top of high-dose testosterone, you get:
Massive total androgen load
More aromatizable substrate overall
Assay interference from EQ metabolites
Result: 👉 E2 numbers that make no physiological sense
That’s how you can see jumps like:
100 → 600+
without matching symptoms
It’s not that EQ suddenly “created” estrogen. It distorted the measurement and amplified aromatization from the testosterone already there.
5️⃣ Why EQ is especially risky with tren (important)
EQ + tren is a sneaky bad combo for estrogen balance:
Tren does not aromatize
Tren suppresses estrogen signaling
EQ distorts estrogen activity
Testosterone keeps converting regardless
So you get:
Estrogen made
Estrogen not working correctly
Labs lying about what’s happening
That’s how guys end up:
Crushing E2 accidentally with AI
Or chasing phantom high-E with more drugs
While symptoms get worse either way
6️⃣ Bottom line (simple version)
❌ EQ is not an aromatase inhibitor
⚠️ EQ disrupts estrogen signaling and lab accuracy
🧠 You can have:
High lab E2 with low-E symptoms
Or low lab E2 with high-E symptoms
💥 High test + EQ + tren = estrogen chaos
If you want, next I can:
Explain why Primo behaves differently than EQ
Break down how to manage estrogen when running EQ
Or walk through why your specific labs exploded the way they did
Just tell me where you want to go next.
 
Many have " success" on eq in regards to e2 but many others do not... it seems to be inconsistent.. not primo on the other hand seems to show it almost across the board when people are getting real primo. But again with blood work its hard to manage by guessing.
 
So this is just the thing. I always have high sensitive estrogen tests done. Estradiol was at 109 before adding tren, but after 6 weeks of adding tren I tested at 614.

Everyone knows that's not accurate, I would've grown tits amongst all sorts of other issues. It was just a false reading.

My question is How do we know that equipoise isn't giving the same false reading?

Here is a copy and paste from chat gpt:

Got you — let’s reset it cleanly and tie it all together without the noise.
Equipoise (Boldenone) & Estrogen — what’s really happening
Key point first:
👉 Equipoise is not an aromatase inhibitor.
It does not block the aromatase enzyme the way Arimidex, Letro, or Aromasin do.
So why does EQ get talked about like it “controls estrogen”?
1️⃣ EQ aromatizes… but weakly
Boldenone does convert to estrogen, just at a much lower rate than testosterone.
Test → readily converts to estradiol (E2)
EQ → converts slowly and inconsistently
On paper, that should mean less estrogen issues.
In reality… it gets weird.
2️⃣ EQ messes with estrogen reading, not always estrogen levels
This is the big misunderstanding.
EQ produces estrogen metabolites that:
Confuse standard E2 blood assays
Can show false lows or false highs
Don’t always reflect what your tissues are actually experiencing
So labs might say:
“E2 is fine” → but you feel low-E symptoms
or “E2 is insane” → but you don’t feel high-E
That’s why EQ is notorious for disconnect between labs and symptoms.
3️⃣ Why people feel low estrogen on EQ
Even when labs look “normal,” guys often report:
Dry joints
Flat pumps
Low libido
Mood blunting
Erectile issues
Why?
Boldenone binds androgen receptors strongly and:
Alters estrogen signaling at the tissue level
Changes how estrogen is used, not just how much exists
Can create functional estrogen deficiency
So estrogen is there… it’s just not doing its job properly.
4️⃣ Why EQ can spike estrogen labs (like what you saw)
This part applies directly to you.
When you add EQ on top of high-dose testosterone, you get:
Massive total androgen load
More aromatizable substrate overall
Assay interference from EQ metabolites
Result: 👉 E2 numbers that make no physiological sense
That’s how you can see jumps like:
100 → 600+
without matching symptoms
It’s not that EQ suddenly “created” estrogen. It distorted the measurement and amplified aromatization from the testosterone already there.
5️⃣ Why EQ is especially risky with tren (important)
EQ + tren is a sneaky bad combo for estrogen balance:
Tren does not aromatize
Tren suppresses estrogen signaling
EQ distorts estrogen activity
Testosterone keeps converting regardless
So you get:
Estrogen made
Estrogen not working correctly
Labs lying about what’s happening
That’s how guys end up:
Crushing E2 accidentally with AI
Or chasing phantom high-E with more drugs
While symptoms get worse either way
6️⃣ Bottom line (simple version)
❌ EQ is not an aromatase inhibitor
⚠️ EQ disrupts estrogen signaling and lab accuracy
🧠 You can have:
High lab E2 with low-E symptoms
Or low lab E2 with high-E symptoms
💥 High test + EQ + tren = estrogen chaos
If you want, next I can:
Explain why Primo behaves differently than EQ
Break down how to manage estrogen when running EQ
Or walk through why your specific labs exploded the way they did
Just tell me where you want to go next.
because you can feel the eq crushing your estrogen its pretty obvious what low estrogen sides feel like
 
So this is just the thing. I always have high sensitive estrogen tests done. Estradiol was at 109 before adding tren, but after 6 weeks of adding tren I tested at 614.

Everyone knows that's not accurate, I would've grown tits amongst all sorts of other issues. It was just a false reading.

My question is How do we know that equipoise isn't giving the same false reading?

Here is a copy and paste from chat gpt:

Got you — let’s reset it cleanly and tie it all together without the noise.
Equipoise (Boldenone) & Estrogen — what’s really happening
Key point first:
👉 Equipoise is not an aromatase inhibitor.
It does not block the aromatase enzyme the way Arimidex, Letro, or Aromasin do.
So why does EQ get talked about like it “controls estrogen”?
1️⃣ EQ aromatizes… but weakly
Boldenone does convert to estrogen, just at a much lower rate than testosterone.
Test → readily converts to estradiol (E2)
EQ → converts slowly and inconsistently
On paper, that should mean less estrogen issues.
In reality… it gets weird.
2️⃣ EQ messes with estrogen reading, not always estrogen levels
This is the big misunderstanding.
EQ produces estrogen metabolites that:
Confuse standard E2 blood assays
Can show false lows or false highs
Don’t always reflect what your tissues are actually experiencing
So labs might say:
“E2 is fine” → but you feel low-E symptoms
or “E2 is insane” → but you don’t feel high-E
That’s why EQ is notorious for disconnect between labs and symptoms.
3️⃣ Why people feel low estrogen on EQ
Even when labs look “normal,” guys often report:
Dry joints
Flat pumps
Low libido
Mood blunting
Erectile issues
Why?
Boldenone binds androgen receptors strongly and:
Alters estrogen signaling at the tissue level
Changes how estrogen is used, not just how much exists
Can create functional estrogen deficiency
So estrogen is there… it’s just not doing its job properly.
4️⃣ Why EQ can spike estrogen labs (like what you saw)
This part applies directly to you.
When you add EQ on top of high-dose testosterone, you get:
Massive total androgen load
More aromatizable substrate overall
Assay interference from EQ metabolites
Result: 👉 E2 numbers that make no physiological sense
That’s how you can see jumps like:
100 → 600+
without matching symptoms
It’s not that EQ suddenly “created” estrogen. It distorted the measurement and amplified aromatization from the testosterone already there.
5️⃣ Why EQ is especially risky with tren (important)
EQ + tren is a sneaky bad combo for estrogen balance:
Tren does not aromatize
Tren suppresses estrogen signaling
EQ distorts estrogen activity
Testosterone keeps converting regardless
So you get:
Estrogen made
Estrogen not working correctly
Labs lying about what’s happening
That’s how guys end up:
Crushing E2 accidentally with AI
Or chasing phantom high-E with more drugs
While symptoms get worse either way
6️⃣ Bottom line (simple version)
❌ EQ is not an aromatase inhibitor
⚠️ EQ disrupts estrogen signaling and lab accuracy
🧠 You can have:
High lab E2 with low-E symptoms
Or low lab E2 with high-E symptoms
💥 High test + EQ + tren = estrogen chaos
If you want, next I can:
Explain why Primo behaves differently than EQ
Break down how to manage estrogen when running EQ
Or walk through why your specific labs exploded the way they did
Just tell me where you want to go next.
Good information
 
It keeps it from getting out of control running lots of test though. I don’t use any ai ever. Never have. Always run at least a little eq and have never had any estrogen sides in my life. No gyno, no acne none it.
 
It keeps it from getting out of control running lots of test though. I don’t use any ai ever. Never have. Always run at least a little eq and have never had any estrogen sides in my life. No gyno, no acne none it.
what ratio do you go with test to eq?
 
what ratio do you go with test to eq?
It depends I don’t have a set amount I use. I change and sizes frequently. Right now I’m going pretty high for 4 weeks. 125 mg a day sustanon
75 mg a day eq
75 mg a day deca
25 mg a day Tren a
Two wks in and really growing
I decided to give a little Tren another go. Do ice a day and Zyrtec twice a day. Zero sides so far. No sweat no heartburn no indigestion
 
25 mg a day Tren a
Two wks in and really growing
I decided to give a little Tren another go. Do ice a day and Zyrtec twice a day. Zero sides so far.
This made my week. Alza on tren is a different kind of fun

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I have said I’m done it. But my progress has been so good and my response to all drugs after the long hiatus Iv been tempted. And fuck…..Tren does make me look freaky almost instantly. Even at 25 mg a day. I even got a pimple on my chest. Just one but that’s alot for me and I kind of even liked that lol
 
You’re a veteran… you should know perfectly well how higher estrogen affects you. Running labs in this case is kind of pointless. Any extra water retention? Blood pressure? Libido, or rather that softness that’s typical of high estrogen? After all these years you should feel it clearly and be able to tell yourself whether it’s actually lowered estrogen or just a measurement error
 
Always get the sensitive estradiol test so that tren won’t falsely elevate it.

EQ smashes estradiol in a lot of people from what I’ve heard. I never used it but many have reported that.
 
Not an ai for me and i love the stuff
 
Be running EQ soon, always used primo in the past to control estrogen. Hoping it has a similar effect, like to avoid AI’s if possible at higher test levels
 

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