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erection libido problems when using aas year round

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ive been on for around a year and been having some problems ,up until recently cialis worked a treat but not now ,i have used hcg continously @500ius e3d

i have eliminated a few possible causes

controlled estrogen
prolactin
have dropped down to a cruising dose 250mg per wk (only 2weeks so far )
using 100mg dhea ed
50mg proviron ed

i am shit scared to come off and am hoping i can find the cause without doing this ,i have had these problems before without cialis but now that doesnt seem to be doing the job ,i am wondering if ive built a tolerance to this or the desensitized from the hcg and am just really shut down ??

any help appreciated
 
This may sound irrelevant but how old are you? Unless you are a competitor
you should definitely be cycling on and off. Being on year round is a sure-fire
way to ruin your body forever. Ruining your body forever for just a few more
pounds of muscle is not worth it, and it seems you are having problems already. Why are you so shit scared to come off? If you've been using HCG continuously you shouldnt have much problems recovering, especially with an intensive PCT. IMO, these libido
problems are your body's way of telling you that you need a break from the
external hormones and its time to reach homeostasis naturally.
 
ive been on for around a year and been having some problems ,up until recently cialis worked a treat but not now ,i have used hcg continously @500ius e3d

i have eliminated a few possible causes

controlled estrogen
prolactin
have dropped down to a cruising dose 250mg per wk (only 2weeks so far )
using 100mg dhea ed
50mg proviron ed

i am shit scared to come off and am hoping i can find the cause without doing this ,i have had these problems before without cialis but now that doesnt seem to be doing the job ,i am wondering if ive built a tolerance to this or the desensitized from the hcg and am just really shut down ??

any help appreciated


I was thinking the PROVIRON and/or DHEA would do the trick.
Do you lack desire or just poor erections?
 
My 2cents

It's going to take your body more than 2 weeks to adjust to the lower dose. That has been my experience. Nothing works when you go from a blast to a cruise. At least according to my experience. Be patient, wait for your body to get used to the new levels of T. And don't be so certain you have self medicated to perfect estrogen and prolactin levels. This is powerful stuff. Hopefully your partner is patient. You'll get it back. Or maybe you just turned gay in the past 2 weeks. ;) Be patient.
 
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i am just concerned that this has happened when things have been fine for around 1 year of blasting /cruising .
what could be th reason for it ?im guessing many ?
 
as a side note ,libido /erections seem much stronger early morning compared to later in the day when it wears off .

i know natural test will be higher at these times ,does this point towards the hpta and possibly desensitization from the hcg ??
 
I would keep your 250MG a week for a little while. You may find that you need Clomid or HCG therapy once your levels get used to the low volume. Keep this in mind, if you do turn it around, be smart on your future cycles. I have seen too many people turn it around, and come close to normal then decide with their genious that they want to get big again. The second or third time, I have seen them have major problems and they've stated they couldn't remediate the problem even with a doctors help. I have never had the problem, but if something hinder my sex life, it's gone as it means to much to me. Just something to think about. Don't fvck with mother nature.
 
If you don't want to come off, stay on that "reasonable" 250mg weekly dose and maybe up your proviron to 100mg a day. Stay on DHEA and HCG and don't use TOO MUCH anti'es... they can really decrease your libido when taken in excess

Diet wise increase your carbs to release more slin that will subsequently free up more test. Or use low doses slin upon waking up or around your workout.
Make sure you eat enough good fats, especially om3's.

Then if you still face erection problems and Cialis and the likes don't do shit, think about Caverject.
 
i am considering dropping it down to 125mg per week and let hormones etc stabilize as much as possible ,i just wish i could find the root of the problem

if things persist i will have to come off but i know that will be hell

thanks for any advise
 
ive been on for around a year and been having some problems ,up until recently cialis worked a treat but not now ,i have used hcg continously @500ius e3d

i have eliminated a few possible causes

controlled estrogen
prolactin
have dropped down to a cruising dose 250mg per wk (only 2weeks so far )
using 100mg dhea ed
50mg proviron ed


i am shit scared to come off and am hoping i can find the cause without doing this ,i have had these problems before without cialis but now that doesnt seem to be doing the job ,i am wondering if ive built a tolerance to this or the desensitized from the hcg and am just really shut down ??

any help appreciated

well if you think you have those in control and perfect,,,then the lesson here would be that its just not test/estro/prolactin = sexual function

many many are related,,,dude, ALOT of HRT people or others stay on for awhile face this. it will never be like first two weeks into a fresh cycle when you have extra T pumping into a healthy endo system. after that its usulaly down fall

hope you figure something out.

try PT141 or MT2 or dopamine agonists.

like Phidias said, easy on the ant e unless you are very sensitive to E, 50-100mg proviron with 250mg of test, you probably wont need any anti e.

try low dose clomid instead of hcg? on top of test 250?

why so much DHEA? DHEA did nothing for my libido, i take it for immune system.
 
yeah id agree they are just things that i thought COULD be affecting it .

to make things a bit clearer i have suffered problems on any cycle without cialis or proviron ,its just the fact these are now not workin which has me puzzled
 
ive noticed a few of you mention clomid ,does this work on cycle ?

ive never heard of it being used in this way ,only when off .
i am genuinely interested in that one ?
 
the dhea dose was reccomended by a former pro

DHEA must first be converted to androstenedion and then to testoterone in men, it has chances to aromatize into estrogen, so the DHEA supplement could increase estrogen levels more than testosterone levels in men. Especialy if you are taking test.
 
ive been on for around a year and been having some problems ,up until recently cialis worked a treat but not now ,i have used hcg continously @500ius e3d

i have eliminated a few possible causes

controlled estrogen
prolactin
have dropped down to a cruising dose 250mg per wk (only 2weeks so far )
using 100mg dhea ed
50mg proviron ed

i am shit scared to come off and am hoping i can find the cause without doing this ,i have had these problems before without cialis but now that doesnt seem to be doing the job ,i am wondering if ive built a tolerance to this or the desensitized from the hcg and am just really shut down ??

any help appreciated

Before taking DHEA supplement have a DHEA-Sulfate test and a blood test for testosterone, if you have high levels of testosterone (and you do) already, than DHEA supplement it would be not a good idea.
 
If you don't want to come off, stay on that "reasonable" 250mg weekly dose and maybe up your proviron to 100mg a day. Stay on DHEA and HCG and don't use TOO MUCH anti'es... they can really decrease your libido when taken in excess

Diet wise increase your carbs to release more slin that will subsequently free up more test. Or use low doses slin upon waking up or around your workout.
Make sure you eat enough good fats, especially om3's.

Then if you still face erection problems and Cialis and the likes don't do shit, think about Caverject.

Have you ever used Caverject Phidias?....or a 'friend' that has:D

....lol, I can't find the right sticky for my post:eek::cool:


BMJ
 
Have you ever used Caverject Phidias?....or a 'friend' that has:D

....lol, I can't find the right sticky for my post:eek::cool:


BMJ

Yes, a very good friend has... relies on it quite often actually. What do you need to know? I'll make sure to ask that close buddy... :D ;)
 
is this commonly used by people ?:eek:

i dont think things have gotten that bad yet ,that would have to be last resort

thanks for the help though mate .

btw is that you in avvy ?
 
Dito

My cycle is not year round (10 weeks norm). During the off / rest period, libido is nonexistent erections not so good or don't last long, this goes on for the next month+ or so until T. and E. stabilize. At least that is the process that I go through. I have never used any antiE products and have never used large dose cycles. I race bicycles and the mass gain is no good for my sport.
 
Get blood work done. Without it all you're doing is guessing. SHGB, estradiol, prolactin (depending on the gear used), cortisol, all kinds of things could be the culprit. For those on TRT SHGB and estradiol are the most common cause of this type of problem I'd say. Without labs you're shooting in the dark.
 

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