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Estradiol question

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Had bloods draw and e2 came back elevated at 46pg/ml. Range is <=39. I pin script cyp at 20 mgs every day. Total test levels came back elevated at 1008ng/dl. Range for Quest is 250-827ng/dl. My doc changed from labcore for some reason there levels for test was high at 1198.

What would you do? Back down on the dosage? Add in aromasin? Or do I need to worried about the e2 just a little out of range?

I was thinking of just skipping Saturday and Sunday pins. That would put me at 100mgs a week and probably bring down e2 in range.

Main goal is to have the drive to perform well road cycling and keep what little strength I have. Age 33 weight 230 and losing at 6'3". Around 14% bf. lipid's were great. Thyroid was messed up tsh 5.11. I am on 50mcgs of t3 script. I am going to try and get the doc to script me 50mcg of t4 for that. That way i will be on a mix of both.

Looking forward to what y'all think.
 
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i'm not implying anything but losing weight/bodyfat will lower your estradiol. eating a lot cruciferous vegetables and cutting back on alcohol also help. but kscowboy gave you the most effective advice in lowering E2.
 

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i'm not implying anything but losing weight/bodyfat will lower your estradiol. eating a lot cruciferous vegetables and cutting back on alcohol also help. but kscowboy gave you the most effective advice in lowering E2.
Thanks. Yes sir always trying to get leaner. I eat around 4 serving of broccoli a day. Not counting the spinach. Thanks for your reply.
 

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Everyone is different. Some guys love high normal E2 while others like a lower numbers. I simply go by how I feel alongside blood work.
 

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Had bloods draw and e2 came back elevated at 46pg/ml. Range is <=39. I pin script cyp at 20 mgs every day. Total test levels came back elevated at 1008ng/dl. Range for Quest is 250-827ng/dl. My doc changed from labcore for some reason there levels for test was high at 1198.

What would you do? Back down on the dosage? Add in aromasin? Or do I need to worried about the e2 just a little out of range?

I was thinking of just skipping Saturday and Sunday pins. That would put me at 100mgs a week and probably bring down e2 in range.

Main goal is to have the drive to perform well road cycling and keep what little strength I have. Age 33 weight 230 and losing at 6'3". Around 14% bf. lipid's were great. Thyroid was messed up tsh 5.11. I am on 50mcgs of t3 script. I am going to try and get the doc to script me 50mcg of t4 for that. That way i will be on a mix of both.

Looking forward to what y'all think.
i would throw in a LITTLE bit of adex. Try starting at 1/2mg 2x a week (Monday and friday)
Dr didn't mention any adex?
 

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i go to talk with the doc tomorrow. I've got a feeling she is going to say get test down in range and then see where e2 falls.
 

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i go to talk with the doc tomorrow. I've got a feeling she is going to say get test down in range and then see where e2 falls.


That would be a deal breaker to me...use an AI properly while keeping Test high.


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After you have been on TRT or ran gear for a few years, you will better understand your body and the symptoms of high or low E2. I'm to the point now that blood work really only validates my internal thoughts.


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If you drop your testosterone dosage down a bit your estrogen will fall into range without needing to run an AI. This is the fix one of the endocrinologists I follow suggests before AI prescription.

One less medication is good news. And 15-20mg/week less testosterone shouldn't be too noticeable. Your test level will fall down to 750-850 and your E2 will be in range.
 

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by the way if you use 2-3IU/day of growth hormone your 750 test levels will do more for your body composition/strength than 1000 test levels without growth.

Test/GH is the best combination ever.
 

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If you drop your testosterone dosage down a bit your estrogen will fall into range without needing to run an AI. This is the fix one of the endocrinologists I follow suggests before AI prescription.

One less medication is good news. And 15-20mg/week less testosterone shouldn't be too noticeable. Your test level will fall down to 750-850 and your E2 will be in range.
Thank you, I like the way you think. I have have had test at 100 mgs a week (50x2) and was in the 500's with a E2 of 26. Then bumped that to 120 mgs of test and my levels was in the 600's with E2 at 46. But I was pinning it twice a week. Now I'm pinning every day. Think I will just pin 20mgs Monday - Friday skip the weekends and see how everything falls.

The doc said to bring down test a little more and E2 should balance also. She add 25mcgs of t4 to my 50 mcgs of t3. My sleep has went back to normal already.
 

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well if you want to have more energy and strength take more T. i'm not telling you what to do - only bring that up to get you to read this:http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/80264-aromasin-dosage.html
Thanks. I've ran aromasin at 12.5 ed alpha phram with 500mgs test bloods showed 2400 something and e2 was at 16. If i remember right.

Monday I went ahead and added 5mgs of RC aromasin. planning on doing that on Monday Wednesday and Friday. Keeping pinning ed 20mgs of test and do bloods on a monday morning before the aromasin in a few weeks.

I get to Think less drugs is always better. Then I think i want the most energy and recovery while staying healthy. Guess I need to order alot of alpha Aromasin. Hate Superior is no longer around.
 
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