Experiences and opinions on different Test:Tren ratios

[ChickenRiceRepeat]

Try using something like 250 mg of testosterone and 700 mg of trenbolone versus 700 mg of testosterone and 250 mg of trenbolone.
You won’t feel the same, and you won’t look the same either, so there’s probably a significant interaction between the AAS.
And receptor affinity isn’t a fairy tale—it’s real, and you can find the data online

I don’t think there is any data to support this, there is hardly any literature on tren to begin with.

Not saying it isn’t real, but it’s a theory and nobody has ever claimed it is a hard truth - at least nobody reputable.

 

[TEHL]

From what I asked ChatGPT, it said that side effects mainly come from the total androgen load, not really from receptor competition, so I guess that’s just another bodybuilding myth.

In my case, I never run Trenbolone for more than 6-8 weeks straight. Don’t get me wrong, stacked with Anadrol it’s insane — I get strong as a forklift — but the side effects on my digestion and mental state really aren’t worth it.

 

[ChickenRiceRepeat]

Of course, that would be expected. Test is the king of sides above physiological doses, high conversion to estrogen and DHT. Almost all other AAS were made because they have lower sides and/or greater anabolic activity than Test.

I think this idea that test is the king of sides outside of physiological is way off base.

i mean yeah, if you let your e2 run wild you will compound the sides of other compounds, but i think test is very well tolerated by most.

I mean look, eq and 19nors can cause mental sides, possible kidney issues, more likely bp issues, etc, so they all cause worse sides objectively than test for most.

Orals obviously cause worse sides.

The only compounds you could even argue are as low side as test are mast and primo but they also threaten to crush e2 (as well as eq)

So really I would say test is the most well tolerated compound that exists. I’m not a big fan of pushing high dose test only don’t get me wrong, but this demonization of test due to e2 I find wild. Low e2 is so much worse than high e2.

 

[Dagmoon650]

I will note that in my experience anytime I ran Test HIGHER than Tren is also the only time I ran into tell tale Tren Sides.

That higher estrogen from the test and progesterone from the tren had you all in your feels huh lol

 

[Dagmoon650]

I’m aware everyone is different, tolerate drugs differently etc.

I’ve seen a few people say that the ratio of Test:Tren depends on your goals. For example Test equal to or higher than Tren for mass gaining, and Test kept at TRT and Tren high for cutting down bodyfat.

Curious to know what the experiences of people here who have experimented with both. Was one better than the other for muscle gain/recomp/fat loss? It doesn’t make a difference?

Thanks

The hay day of Dorian Yates tren hex came in like 76mg amps and he took one twice a week during prep. My experience with it was 300mg test, 490 tren a, 490 mast an and only sides I got was a dick harder than the rock of Gibraltar almost 24/7 and more sweaty at night. My thoughts is if you’re gonna run test higher you need something like a sprinkle of eq to keep the estrogen down or the progesterone of tren will act with the higher estrogen and boom you’ve got prolactin issues and you’re walking around with mood swings and possible leaking utters. Lower test and higher tren won’t put on size but the strength jumps are insane, the confidence is through the roof, body looks great, and you could fuck a hole through your hot water heater if you wanted to.

That’s my humble opinion, take it with a gram, I mean a grain

 

[BigKevKris]

That higher estrogen from the test and progesterone from the tren had you all in your feels huh lol

Yes exactly, that with estrogen control and caber being run. It was so long ago though honestly I couldnt give you details. I just dont do that anymore.

 

[FuzzyFella]

Per week:

For a cut
70-150mg test
140-210mg tren A (20-30mg/day)

For a bulk
350-500mg test
70mg tren ace (10mg/day)

 

[redz24]

Per week:

For a cut
70-150mg test
140-210mg tren A (20-30mg/day)

For a bulk
350-500mg test
70mg tren ace (10mg/day)

Those are serious doses?

 

[BodybuildingLife]

Currently running 1200mg test a week with 300mg of tren a week and I feel great

 

[BodybuildingLife]

Per week:

For a cut
70-150mg test
140-210mg tren A (20-30mg/day)

For a bulk
350-500mg test
70mg tren ace (10mg/day)

Are these dosages for a teenager ?

 

[Dagmoon650]

Are these dosages for a teenager ?

Those are the official lady boi doses in Thailand

 

[FuzzyFella]

Are these dosages for a teenager ?

Those are the doses for someone asking a quiestion this basic yes

You think Olympia open class boys come here to ask you how much tren to blast?

 

[BodybuildingLife]

Those are the doses for someone asking a quiestion this basic yes

You think Olympia open class boys come here to ask you how much tren to blast?

Last time I check there’s open ifbb pros here

 

[KyleSmith1985]

100mg tren E year round

I’ll come off in the hottest weeks of summer only cause I’ll look like I just got out of the shower 24/7