Experiencing ED - Advice will be followed

[AVelasques911]

So in my mid 30's, been lifting a bit over 20 years, mostly natural but I did gear all throughout college (Just test, deca and Dbol, I was bloated and just wanted to be BIG). I've been clean until 4 years ago when I was having major ED and my test came back at 300 so I went on TRT. I settled on 200mg.

I've now decided I want to get back in the game, I really miss it. My plan is blasts and cruises of 10 weeks. My first one that I've been on about 3-4 weeks is 150 test enanthate EOD and 150 masteron enanthate EOD. I decided to match the Test with an equal dose of Mast because I bloat a LOT and while I'm still toying with the idea of tren, which would likely give me the look I really want, I want to play with the milder stuff first.

Problem is, I have major ED again. Libido isn't an issue, I crave sex a lot. But I can't get it up. I MIGHT be able able to do something with a 20mg Cialis, but it might not stay hard enough to penetrate.

I did two bloodworks prior to this when I was on TRT, I'll skip right to the test and E2: (DHT is borderline high, Free Test is borderline high, SHBG is right in the middle)

1. 200mg Test, 500iu HCG, no AI = 950ng/DL, Sensitive e2 at 32 (at trough)
2. 100mg Test, 500iu HCG, no AI = 790ng/DL, Sensitive e2 at 32 (at trough)

On both of those I had absolutely zero erections, my penis may as well have been a dead appendage. Even with a hot girl grinding naked on me it wouldn't move.
Adding 12.5mg of Aromasin to the 200mg or 6.25 to the 100 daily seemed to help, a little..... but eventually I'd still get itchy nipples and erections would dwindle. I'd take Letrozole for a week and my erections would be uncontrollable, I had to get up at night and take care of it because i couldn't even sleep.

So going on approx. 525mg a week of Test, I just left it at 12.5mg daily considering all the masteron I'm taking plus people saying 25mg of exemestane or even 1/4 of letro daily is a crazy dose and I'm going to tank my estrogen etc. so I said ok, let's play it safe.

I'm getting bloodwork in two weeks but I want to start from scratch with Arimidex at perhaps .5mg EOD, get bloods and work up from there if I need to. I want to do this with arimidex just to try a different AI but also there's a bit more room for error since I'm not destroying the e2.

Any advice, does my plan sound good? I know lower AI is the popular opinion but I've had so many embarrassing moments on TRT with women that I'm done messing around and might have to up the dose or go the dreaded very low test, high tren route.

 

[sazo75]

just curious but you married and you experienced ed with your partner or you out with different chicks and when you get them in bed this is happening?

 

[kilsong]

Dr. Phil over here...
lol
kidding.

 

[sazo75]

Dr. Phil over here...
lol
kidding.

I'm more so curious because I want to hear the stories if he's getting with different woman and what happens when he's not getting it up lol.

Also OP you might want to give Proviron a shot, it goes well with Test and a lot of people swear by it for ED.

 

[AVelasques911]

just curious but you married and you experienced ed with your partner or you out with different chicks and when you get them in bed this is happening?

Different women..... omg, some of the moments were just a pure disaster, just kind of sitting there while she tries to suck me off and kiss my body etc. to try to get it hard and it's just there, limp. One girl tried to ride me, and actually rode me until she came.... it wasn't even in her, she was just grinding on my limp noodle lol, it was embarrassing AF.
This was on 200mg TRT and 12.5mg aromasin I believe.

It's been somewhat better now on 525 test/525 mast.
I've had some pretty good sex but still quite a few moments where I had to play it off and act like I had a migraine or something because it just wouldn't get hard.

I'm not adding proviron, I'm on over 500mg of Masteron.... I actually think my masteron might be too high. As in, I'd be better doing test in the 700 range and mast in the 300-400 range (or maybe even tren in the 300 range and save masteron for cruising, but I don't want to mess with tren until I get this sorted out)

I'm not sure I've actually noticed that much from masteron, or proviron which i've ran at 100mg before..... people talk about wanting to rape everything they see. I mean I'm still here unable to get hard most of the time so, kind of feels like a waste of cash.

I can get insanely hard, all I have to do, like I said, is pop some letro for 4-6 days and I can't even sleep from how horny I am, but obviously I can't just say on that or I'll tank quickly.

 

[sazo75]

Different women..... omg, some of the moments were just a pure disaster, just kind of sitting there while she tries to suck me off and kiss my body etc. to try to get it hard and it's just there, limp. One girl tried to ride me, and actually rode me until she came.... it wasn't even in her, she was just grinding on my limp noodle lol, it was embarrassing AF.
This was on 200mg TRT and 12.5mg aromasin I believe.

It's been somewhat better now on 525 test/525 mast.
I've had some pretty good sex but still quite a few moments where I had to play it off and act like I had a migraine or something because it just wouldn't get hard.

I'm not adding proviron, I'm on over 500mg of Masteron.... I actually think my masteron might be too high. As in, I'd be better doing test in the 700 range and mast in the 300-400 range (or maybe even tren in the 300 range and save masteron for cruising, but I don't want to mess with tren until I get this sorted out)

I'm not sure I've actually noticed that much from masteron, or proviron which i've ran at 100mg before..... people talk about wanting to rape everything they see. I mean I'm still here unable to get hard most of the time so, kind of feels like a waste of cash.

I can get insanely hard, all I have to do, like I said, is pop some letro for 4-6 days and I can't even sleep from how horny I am, but obviously I can't just say on that or I'll tank quickly.

Thanks for sharing those stories bro, fun stuff. I'd also be curious if others could chime in and help you out because you Estro doesn't seem too high or too low, seems just about right. You would think with the test being high and estrogen being fine that you would be totally fine. When you took the Letro did you get bloods to confirm that it actually did tank your estro?

You mentioned Cialis, you might want to give that a shot, or Viagra, kinda sucks that you will have to use these two since they're like a crutch but it's better than nothing, and if these don't work I guess you're stuck with using the letro, and hopefully it's just a short term crutch until we can find what the culprit is and how to fix it.

 

[swim15]

I’d have the same question about being with different females as well - definitely valid. I’m in my mid 20’s and have issues when I’m with new people or don’t know them well. If it’s someone I’m very comfortable with, I’ll be rock hard and can fuck then for hours but otherwise I won’t get up at all.

OP - if you need letro to get things going, why not use that? Sounds like it was working before so don’t fix what isn’t broke. I know a handful of guys who have to have letro on even low-moderate doses of test. It’s just individual. You won’t be able to treat hormone issues easily with cialis/viagra/etc.

 

[AVelasques911]

Glad to share the stories lol, and thanks for the listening ear(s)

It is weird because 32 e2 is pretty normal to me, but I've heard some guys feeling better in the 20 or even 15-20 range so I just figured that was me.

And that's my biggest worry, that on 200mg of TRT I needed 1/2 an aromasin pill daily to keep me somewhat ok (I felt better on 100mg and 1/2 a pill, which is a lot) ..... so man, if I want to cycle at 750mg weekly, which I do, I did 500mg enough in the past and want to try something new, how much aromasin am I going to need then, 2 tabs a day? It's crazy to even think about that large of an amount.

Now here's just a crazy IDEA. But has anyone ever heard of combining aromasin and letro? Hear me out, it's just an idea that popped in my head. But if I cruise on 200mg and 1/2 and aromasin, my thinking was, why not just keep that intact year round, and when I blast up to 750mg, add in 1/4 letro eod on my injection days, or twice a week or whatever. Would there be any negative interaction?

 

[jeroendebleser]

I think Proviron works better for sexual enhancement than Masteron does so I wouldn't rule it out entirely.

 

[AVelasques911]

I think Proviron works better for sexual enhancement than Masteron does so I wouldn't rule it out entirely.

I've used pharm proviron at 100mg daily, didn't really feel much of anything. Same with masteron, I guess it's something but it's so subtle it's hard to say. I lowered it to 100mg eod, since I figure any sexual and water retention benefits will take place around 400.

 

[ferraribrad]

When I jumped into TRT I was very naive and didn't realize how much fine tuning it would take to get me feeling great everyday from ED, to happiness, to anxiety etc. Messing with your hormones can really affect your life as a whole.

I love sex and have had some embarrassing situations as well from my past imbalances.

If you can't do a lot of blood work, consider trying to limit your total dosages and compounds to a minimum, something like this:
25mg test-C ED
10mg mast-P ED
50mg proviron ED (half morning / half evening)
0.25mg Adex ED


And sit on that for 3 weeks and then make a single variable adjustment at a time and determine if your symptoms are better or worse from it.

Glad to share the stories lol, and thanks for the listening ear(s)

It is weird because 32 e2 is pretty normal to me, but I've heard some guys feeling better in the 20 or even 15-20 range so I just figured that was me.

And that's my biggest worry, that on 200mg of TRT I needed 1/2 an aromasin pill daily to keep me somewhat ok (I felt better on 100mg and 1/2 a pill, which is a lot) ..... so man, if I want to cycle at 750mg weekly, which I do, I did 500mg enough in the past and want to try something new, how much aromasin am I going to need then, 2 tabs a day? It's crazy to even think about that large of an amount.

Now here's just a crazy IDEA. But has anyone ever heard of combining aromasin and letro? Hear me out, it's just an idea that popped in my head. But if I cruise on 200mg and 1/2 and aromasin, my thinking was, why not just keep that intact year round, and when I blast up to 750mg, add in 1/4 letro eod on my injection days, or twice a week or whatever. Would there be any negative interaction?

 

[Slowmoe]

Did anyone mention cialis? Sorry didn't have patience to read those long posts

 

[Geardepot]

I'm sure everyone has different experiences and remedies, but I can tell you what works for me. I'm currently on 250mg of test cyp for HRT. Personally, I don't think low testosterone is necessarily the real issue here. Testosterone certainly increases the libido, but I think the ED is more attributable to blood flow to the penis. I have tried several combinations of things (both OTC and scrip), and found the best combo for me is (3) 20mg Cialis about 1 1/2 hours before sex. About 45 minutes prior, I will pop a 50mg Viagra. This combination keeps me easily aroused, and able to maintain the erection for extended amounts of time! And I'm in the senior citizen category...so I'm totally happy with those results!
GD

 

[LK3]

in the new antiaging thread knight9 posted a link to a dr talk on estrogen research. really worth the half hr of listening as its medical facts that contradict a lot of the bro science that we go off of regarding est.

if you went straight from normal trt to that cycle of g+ test and mast it may have just been too much.

try going down to 200mgs test and 200mgs mast, it may make a big differnece.

that said could also be head shit like anxiety...:lightbulb:

 

[AVelasques911]

I'm sure everyone has different experiences and remedies, but I can tell you what works for me. I'm currently on 250mg of test cyp for HRT. Personally, I don't think low testosterone is necessarily the real issue here. Testosterone certainly increases the libido, but I think the ED is more attributable to blood flow to the penis. I have tried several combinations of things (both OTC and scrip), and found the best combo for me is (3) 20mg Cialis about 1 1/2 hours before sex. About 45 minutes prior, I will pop a 50mg Viagra. This combination keeps me easily aroused, and able to maintain the erection for extended amounts of time! And I'm in the senior citizen category...so I'm totally happy with those results!
GD

OMG, three cialis pills at once? And then a viagra? Holy Cow..... I normally do 1/4 of a cialis before bed and lately have bumped it to a full one for the time being until I get this situation under control. But man..... I'm sure 3 of them would take care of things no problem lol but I'm not sure I could handle the headache. I have three dates this weekend so I'm going to try one before going over along with the one before bed.

 

[AVelasques911]

Yeah I'm getting bloods tomorrow, at least I can have a clue where I'm at right now and know if I should increase or decrease my AI.

I know this much:

1. With test in the 800-950 range and e2 in the 32 range my dick does NOT function at all. It might as well be a piece of rubber.

2. About 1/2 an aromasin/ed on 100mg keeps me at my best... that's a LOT of aromasin and I always get lectured about how I'm tanking my e2 etc., but boners don't lie. 1/2 an aromasin/ed on 200mg is OK, but that's combined with nightly cialis, without the cialis it doesn't really do much.

3. on 200mg of test and 1/2 and aromasin/ed, I do start to get sensitive lumps in my nipples after about 8-12 weeks, which tells me my estrogen might still be a little too high.

4. At that point I do 5-6 days of letrozole, which knocks out the nipple lump, and I have the most raging erections and insane libido ever for the next few days, then it's back to normal.

Now I know everyone always goes bananas when I say 12.5mg of aromasin daily on just 100mg of Test, but that's how I feel the best. The problem is, it makes blasting seem nearly impossible, at least without switching over to or adding in letro OR resorting to the 100mg of test with 300-400 tren route (I feel amazingly euphoric on tren, but the sweating is unbearable, so I'm really hoping to make the test work).

 

[aamitchel]

Lay off the PED’s or add coal is 20mg 1 time daily or sildenafil viagra 50mg-100mg things should improve


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[pesty4077]

I'm sure everyone has different experiences and remedies, but I can tell you what works for me. I'm currently on 250mg of test cyp for HRT. Personally, I don't think low testosterone is necessarily the real issue here. Testosterone certainly increases the libido, but I think the ED is more attributable to blood flow to the penis. I have tried several combinations of things (both OTC and scrip), and found the best combo for me is (3) 20mg Cialis about 1 1/2 hours before sex. About 45 minutes prior, I will pop a 50mg Viagra. This combination keeps me easily aroused, and able to maintain the erection for extended amounts of time! And I'm in the senior citizen category...so I'm totally happy with those results!
GD

I would get such a bad headache from that much, it would ruin the moment. At close to 60, if I just took 150 MG of test and popped one 50 MG of Viagra, I could satisfy any girl, even in her 20s.

 

[pahlevan]

So in my mid 30's, been lifting a bit over 20 years, mostly natural but I did gear all throughout college (Just test, deca and Dbol, I was bloated and just wanted to be BIG). I've been clean until 4 years ago when I was having major ED and my test came back at 300 so I went on TRT. I settled on 200mg.

I've now decided I want to get back in the game, I really miss it. My plan is blasts and cruises of 10 weeks. My first one that I've been on about 3-4 weeks is 150 test enanthate EOD and 150 masteron enanthate EOD. I decided to match the Test with an equal dose of Mast because I bloat a LOT and while I'm still toying with the idea of tren, which would likely give me the look I really want, I want to play with the milder stuff first.

Problem is, I have major ED again. Libido isn't an issue, I crave sex a lot. But I can't get it up. I MIGHT be able able to do something with a 20mg Cialis, but it might not stay hard enough to penetrate.

I did two bloodworks prior to this when I was on TRT, I'll skip right to the test and E2: (DHT is borderline high, Free Test is borderline high, SHBG is right in the middle)

1. 200mg Test, 500iu HCG, no AI = 950ng/DL, Sensitive e2 at 32 (at trough)
2. 100mg Test, 500iu HCG, no AI = 790ng/DL, Sensitive e2 at 32 (at trough)

On both of those I had absolutely zero erections, my penis may as well have been a dead appendage. Even with a hot girl grinding naked on me it wouldn't move.
Adding 12.5mg of Aromasin to the 200mg or 6.25 to the 100 daily seemed to help, a little..... but eventually I'd still get itchy nipples and erections would dwindle. I'd take Letrozole for a week and my erections would be uncontrollable, I had to get up at night and take care of it because i couldn't even sleep.

So going on approx. 525mg a week of Test, I just left it at 12.5mg daily considering all the masteron I'm taking plus people saying 25mg of exemestane or even 1/4 of letro daily is a crazy dose and I'm going to tank my estrogen etc. so I said ok, let's play it safe.

I'm getting bloodwork in two weeks but I want to start from scratch with Arimidex at perhaps .5mg EOD, get bloods and work up from there if I need to. I want to do this with arimidex just to try a different AI but also there's a bit more room for error since I'm not destroying the e2.

Any advice, does my plan sound good? I know lower AI is the popular opinion but I've had so many embarrassing moments on TRT with women that I'm done messing around and might have to up the dose or go the dreaded very low test, high tren route.

I'd see a doctor to make sure there arent physiological issues and get your self a 20 year old hottie!

 

[muaythai123]

We need more blood details to give you an answer.
What is your free t, SHBG, prolactin etc?

You don't want e2 too low either. How long have you been on those protocols? Sometimes takes 6 weeks to stabilise.