I've got the serostim without a hologram. The first 3 kits seemed like they were working, but the last few seem to be doing nothing. I've even bumped the dose to 11iu/day and am not getting the hand numbness that I once was. I've never seen any drastic changes like some do, but then again nothing ever works great for me. I always see subtle changes with every thing I've ever used.
All gh works differennt, if you ever try saizen you will see the difference. Saizen is very slow and you get little progress in the first weeks, If you try Humatrope you will see the difference in the first week some times in the first shoot if you have a low body fat, when you awake the next day of a humatrope shoot you look harder, Genatropin does the same work too.
I used Sizen about 3 times for 10 weeks some years a go an some friends too and man we loose the money and it was real saizen buyed directly in the lab. Some others friends liked a lot, thats becouse some people dont assimilate this gh, but everybody have good results from Humatrope and genatropin or norditropin.....Is like deca, deca is very good , but is very good to some people and for others is like take a shoot of water...
I've tried just about every kind of gh known to medical science. (And probably some UNKNOWN to medical science!) Been on gh for about 5 years now, including Equigen a couple of times. Frankly for me if its all been exactly the same (as long as its real). I've never heard of anything to indicate that the different "brands" have different effects. Hell, Saizen and Serostim are both made by Serono. As far as I know the only possilbe chemical difference in gh's would be the deal about whether its 191 or 192 amino acid chain. I think now its all 191. Maybe some people have experienced differences in effect, but I honestly would be surprised if there is much in reality. Its not like the difference between say, dbol, deca and test cyp which of course while all three are AAS, ARE very different chemically and in many other ways, including duration of effect. Gh is all made from the identical recombinant dna process. There is some difference in them as to their storage. Some (like Pharmacia's Genotropin) have to be refrigerated before reconstitution, and some (like Serostim and Saizen) only have to be refrigerated after reconstitution. Maybe this means they are different somehow? Anyway, I personally think gh is gh. Maybe one of the real gh experts like BigA can shed some light?
I agree. GH is GH. I have used Humatrope, Norditropin, Genotropin, Equigen, Somatonorm, Saizen and the russian/latvian stuff. All worked the same.
And I am one of those people - I take my first GH shot before bed, when I wake up in the morning I already see a difference - my skin 'glows' and the body take sthat GH quality look.
First time I ever took GH, I was dieting for a show and I was 19 - I lost 2% bf in the first 3 days of use while all my lifts went up. I was using Somatonorm at 6IU/day.