Fat Head (Documentary About Diet & Health)

[AJW91]

Thought some of you guys might enjoy this documentary: **broken link removed**

It's not *perfect* but it makes good points about fat-consumption, cholesterol, and health... AND he destroys Morgan Spurlock (priceless).

Watch it and tell me what you think.

 

[-Z-]

I think the guy is a fucking idiot. And I'm only 5 minutes into it.

Morgan Spurlock never said anybody was being forced to eat McDonalds.

 

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I think the guy is a fucking idiot. And I'm only 5 minutes into it.

Morgan Spurlock never said anybody was being forced to eat McDonalds.

I thought it was a pretty decent documentary.. Everyone is blaming McDonalds for their super-size and horrible food... But it's your choice to eat McDonald's and it's also your choice on how much you can eat. This guy proves that controlling your calories you can still eat McDonald's and be relatively healthy.

 

[-Z-]

I thought it was a pretty decent documentary.. Everyone is blaming McDonalds for their super-size and horrible food... But it's your choice to eat McDonald's and it's also your choice on how much you can eat. This guy proves that controlling your calories you can still eat McDonald's and be relatively healthy.

But did he honestly have to make a documentary about that? I mean anyone with ANY common sense knows that McD's is not healthy for you. I'd also go as far to think that 99% of people know that eating too much makes you gain weight (DUH!)

The bottom line is calories in > calories out =weight gain, calories out > calories in =lose weight

Plus this dude changed his workout regimen. He's doing what most people who consume mainly fast food don't do.

 

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But did he honestly have to make a documentary about that? I mean anyone with ANY common sense knows that McD's is not healthy for you.

The bottom line is calories in > calories out =weight gain, calories out > calories in =lose weight

Do you honestly think that he made this documentary for you? He made it for the MILLIONS of idiots that have no understanding of diet or nutrition.

Did Morgan Spurlock have to make a documentary that showed that eating Mcdonald's to the point of throwing up 3x a day was going to make him gain weight, increase his blood pressure, and give him bad health? No, but it sure was a big hit when it was made.

 

[-Z-]

Do you honestly think that he made this documentary for you? He made it for the MILLIONS of idiots that have no understanding of diet or nutrition.

Did Morgan Spurlock have to make a documentary that showed that eating Mcdonald's to the point of throwing up 3x a day was going to make him gain weight, increase his blood pressure, and give him bad health? No, but it sure was a big hit when it was made.

Understood, and I see your point.

I'm just saying even an idiot can look at what you're served at McD's, and then cook the EXACT same burger or whatever and home and see something isn't right.

My beef is he's just acting like Spurlock is the devil when it comes to this thing. Even when the first like 20 minutes of Super-Size Me is him bagging on the retards that sued McDonalds for "making them fat"

 

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Understood, and I see your point.

I'm just saying even an idiot can look at what you're served at McD's, and then cook the EXACT same burger or whatever and home and see something isn't right.

My beef is he's just acting like Spurlock is the devil when it comes to this thing. Even when the first like 20 minutes of Super-Size Me is him bagging on the retards that sued McDonalds for "making them fat"

I did get tired of him trying to put down the super size me documentary the whole time.. I agree with that. It got annoying and I didn't necessarily like the guy's personality as much as I liked Spurlock's either.

 

[sammy555]

I cant watch it in my country unfortunately but it sounds very similar to bowling for morgan - anyone seen that?

 

[-Z-]

His voice just bothers me for some reason, haha

 

[-Z-]

Also, if this guy was my doctor, I would freak out.

 

[MrRage]

Also, if this guy was my doctor, I would freak out.

He looks like a more "rapey" version of the guy who played Steve on 90210 (shut up, you know you watched it too)


Seriously though, this documentary comes off as paid for by certain companies... the garbage that is in McDonalds, may not be "horrible" in the immediate future, but its the long term risks. Also one of the things that spurlock said is very true... people might not be forced to eat McDonalds, but for many it is the most affordable option. It is more expensive to eat healthy in the US.

 

[AJW91]

But did he honestly have to make a documentary about that? I mean anyone with ANY common sense knows that McD's is not healthy for you. I'd also go as far to think that 99% of people know that eating too much makes you gain weight (DUH!)

The bottom line is calories in > calories out =weight gain, calories out > calories in =lose weight

Plus this dude changed his workout regimen. He's doing what most people who consume mainly fast food don't do.

Watch more of the documentary. He makes interesting points about fat consumption, cholesterol, and heart disease.

And his exercise is brisk walking two to three times a week. C'mon, you don't think that accounts for a lot of his change in bodyfat or weight?!

And, believe it or not, there really are people who want to regulate and tax certain foods to death because poor people are supposedly too stupid to eat what they really want. I think the documentary makes good points on this topic.

 

[AJW91]

He looks like a more "rapey" version of the guy who played Steve on 90210 (shut up, you know you watched it too)


Seriously though, this documentary comes off as paid for by certain companies... the garbage that is in McDonalds, may not be "horrible" in the immediate future, but its the long term risks. Also one of the things that spurlock said is very true... people might not be forced to eat McDonalds, but for many it is the most affordable option. It is more expensive to eat healthy in the US.

Of course it's more affordable. Is it surprising that lower quality, factory farmed food is less expensive than higher quality food?

If you made lower quality food (e.g. fast food, processed foods, TV dinners) more expensive through regulation and taxation, you wouldn't magically lower the price of higher quality food. The higher quality food would still cost as much as it did before! All that you would do is make it less affordable for people to eat as much as they want to.

And how do you think this could film could be paid for by McDonald's or other food manufacturers? Hello, do you look at what fast food joints sell? Sugary drinks, french fries with ketchup, sundaes, ice cream cones, mcflurries and God knows what else. This documentary film is highly critical of such foods.

The point of the film is this: You crave sugar, salt, and fat, because in nature foods that have sugar, salt, and fat are healthy. You get the sugar from fruits and the fat and salt from wild animals. The fruits are high in dietary fiber and antioxidants while the wild animals are high in omega 3s, vitamins, and minerals.

But modern technology has allowed us to hack our cravings, so now we have foods that have the sugar, salt, and fat but are devoid of the nutrients found in sugary, salty, and fatty foods that are found in nature. For example, sundaes. Or factory farmed meat which has a pathetic fatty acid profile when compared to game-meat.

And the fact that people buy this crap isn't the fault of business, it's the fault of people who demand this kind of food. Business simply fills demand. If people wanted to buy more grassfed beef and fruits and vegetables, you can bet that businesses would drop the unhealthy foods in favor of these healthy foods.

BTW, Penn and Teller made a good episode on fast food as well: YouTube - ‪Penn and Teller - Bullshit S08E02 Fast Food Part(1/2)‬‏ and YouTube - ‪Penn and Teller - Bullshit S08E02 Fast Food Part(2/2)‬‏

 

[Bleed]

Every bodybuilder (and probably everyone in the US) really owes it to themselves to watch Food, inc. It covers grass fed beef and organics. You'll see that whenever you eat a fast food burger you are realistically eating pieces of 1000's of different cows...

Watch it and see for yourself. I'm opinionated on this topic to the millionth degree so i won't rattle on.

 

[-Z-]

Every bodybuilder (and probably everyone in the US) really owes it to themselves to watch Food, inc. It covers grass fed beef and organics. You'll see that whenever you eat a fast food burger you are realistically eating pieces of 1000's of different cows...

Watch it and see for yourself. I'm opinionated on this topic to the millionth degree so i won't rattle on.

Food, Inc is by far the best food related movie I've seen

 

[MrRage]

Food, Inc is by far the best food related movie I've seen

i love food inc.

 

[Bleed]

Is the public getting what they demand or getting what they can afford? How about the fact that corn is utilized a million (with even more concotions invented every year) different ways and pretty much constitutes just about 90% of what is on grocery store shelves? When you start looking into how food is subsidized and follow the money trail you'll see its hard to demand anything else when all you can afford is the dollar menu. I find it hard to believe anyone can argue that you can by a .99 cent burger but a head of broccoli is more expensive and that this is somehow NOT a problem.

Of course it's more affordable. Is it surprising that lower quality, factory farmed food is less expensive than higher quality food?

If you made lower quality food (e.g. fast food, processed foods, TV dinners) more expensive through regulation and taxation, you wouldn't magically lower the price of higher quality food. The higher quality food would still cost as much as it did before! All that you would do is make it less affordable for people to eat as much as they want to.

And how do you think this could film could be paid for by McDonald's or other food manufacturers? Hello, do you look at what fast food joints sell? Sugary drinks, french fries with ketchup, sundaes, ice cream cones, mcflurries and God knows what else. This documentary film is highly critical of such foods.

The point of the film is this: You crave sugar, salt, and fat, because in nature foods that have sugar, salt, and fat are healthy. You get the sugar from fruits and the fat and salt from wild animals. The fruits are high in dietary fiber and antioxidants while the wild animals are high in omega 3s, vitamins, and minerals.

But modern technology has allowed us to hack our cravings, so now we have foods that have the sugar, salt, and fat but are devoid of the nutrients found in sugary, salty, and fatty foods that are found in nature. For example, sundaes. Or factory farmed meat which has a pathetic fatty acid profile when compared to game-meat.

And the fact that people buy this crap isn't the fault of business, it's the fault of people who demand this kind of food. Business simply fills demand. If people wanted to buy more grassfed beef and fruits and vegetables, you can bet that businesses would drop the unhealthy foods in favor of these healthy foods.

BTW, Penn and Teller made a good episode on fast food as well: YouTube - ‪Penn and Teller - Bullshit S08E02 Fast Food Part(1/2)‬‏ and YouTube - ‪Penn and Teller - Bullshit S08E02 Fast Food Part(2/2)‬‏

 

[Mad-Bull]

i love food inc.

Just found a stream going to watch it now. Can I get a quick summary?

 

[-Z-]

Just found a stream going to watch it now. Can I get a quick summary?

Moral of the story--support your local farmers

 

[AJW91]

Is the public getting what they demand or getting what they can afford? How about the fact that corn is utilized a million (with even more concotions invented every year) different ways and pretty much constitutes just about 90% of what is on grocery store shelves? When you start looking into how food is subsidized and follow the money trail you'll see its hard to demand anything else when all you can afford is the dollar menu. I find it hard to believe anyone can argue that you can by a .99 cent burger but a head of broccoli is more expensive and that this is somehow NOT a problem.

I'm not quite sure what you're saying here, but I kind of agree? Haha.

I agree that the fascistic relationship between the state and agribusiness in the United States and the European Union is worrying. I agree that the massive subsidies for corn are not good. I agree that cutting subsidies for corn will free up resources for other farm products, making corn products more expensive and other farm products (whatever consumers demand) less expensive.

I agree that it would be wonderful if broccoli and other healthy foods were cheaper, but there really isn't anything one could do to change that. The government could always subsidize "healthy" food, but then people would have to pay for that through taxes, inflation, and/or higher interest rates. There's also the problem of having the government, an institution very prone to manipulation by special interest groups, decide what is "healthy" food.

Every bodybuilder (and probably everyone in the US) really owes it to themselves to watch Food, inc. It covers grass fed beef and organics. You'll see that whenever you eat a fast food burger you are realistically eating pieces of 1000's of different cows...

Watch it and see for yourself. I'm opinionated on this topic to the millionth degree so i won't rattle on.

Can't say I was a huge fan of Food Inc... I get the whole point about organic/grassfed beef being healthier. I also agree that subsidies for corn are bad. But those were things that I already knew before seeing the film. And those two things could've taken a total of 15 minutes to describe and explain thoroughly. The rest of the documentary was fairly weak, I thought. e.g. when they were talking about fast food contaminated with salmonella and e coli, well, clearly that was a bad case of undercooked food, not (necessarily) of bad meat! And their criticism of "thousands of cows in each burger patty" wasn't too... convincing. When they said that, I thought, so what? That's the nature of having to feed 300 million people in the United States, 300 million people in the European Union, and at least 200 million more in the rest of the developed world. If we eliminated factory farming tomorrow, can you even begin to imagine the mass starvation that would occur with the resultant skyrocketting of food prices?