MYTH.
It's also a MYTH that fat will make you fat when insulin is active. Although like with everything there are so many variables and the insulin dose and grams of fat are major factors.
I wont believe that you wont increase ur bf% on slin with no age, till I see it. I mean when used regular for at least a month, no GH, no GH stimulating peptides. Physiologically just sounds impossible. i dont say u gonna turn from 8% bf to 20%bf, but a person can easily go from 8%to 10% while still eating clean. That s what slin does, besides all the benefits - It just likes to store fat.
Definitely. But again there are so many variables. If someone is using slin to noticeably grow then you use it with the needed calories so of course you are going to store a little fat. Some guys literally think if they add any fat to slin it will just be stored and they will get fatter. So even if they have slin active for 8-12 hours per day they literally won't eat any fat the entire time and all I am stating is that extreme is not needed. Although if I were to use lantus for example I would definitely be following a low fat diet. Again your exact goals, the dose of slin and the amount of calories (fat/carbs/protein) are all factors. If I person was to go from 8% to 10% bodyfat I would expect a 20-25 pound weight again in return.
I'd love to hear the brains on this forum discuss the effects on insulin sensitivity when combining high levels of fats with carbs... started a thread a while back which went nowhere...
People like to call bullshit.. but there seems to be a lot of evidence that suggests otherwise. See link below for example... Rats fed a high fat high fructose diet caused T2D... just high fructose did not.
https://nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12986-016-0074-1
EXACTLY!
Insulin should be thought of as enhancing or getting more out of the food your already eating
You probably won't get too far on this one because the generalized "it depends" answer REALLY applies with this concept. There are too many biological, circumstantial, and environmental variables to take into account to make any blanket kind of blanket statement that can apply to everyone.
This is where I feel like learning your body while applying basic nutrient timing practices will most likely be best. Learning and adjusting overtime as every surplus and deficit is different.
I'd love to hear the brains on this forum discuss the effects on insulin sensitivity when combining high levels of fats with carbs... started a thread a while back which went nowhere...
People like to call bullshit.. but there seems to be a lot of evidence that suggests otherwise. See link below for example... Rats fed a high fat high fructose diet caused T2D... just high fructose did not.
https://nutritionandmetabolism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12986-016-0074-1
Insulin should be thought as the most anabolic hormone and that s exactly what it is, and if u dont utilize it right - u re just wasting ur time and money. Steroids and gh by themselves dont make 6ft 330 lbs monsters. It s insulin and the IGF1 released from the gh and extended by the slin/gh combo that makes monsters.
Insulin should be thought as the most anabolic hormone and that s exactly what it is, and if u dont utilize it right - u re just wasting ur time and money. Steroids and gh by themselves dont make 6ft 330 lbs monsters. It s insulin and the IGF1 released from the gh and extended by the slin/gh combo that makes monsters.
I understand what you're saying.. however it seems pretty clear at least in this study that it's fat WITH carbs that causes the T2D. And playing devil's advocate, I'm sure there is some biological differences between the rats in the study...
Either way, not disagreeing.. but I think it's worth acknowledging this is out there and at least considering it when making dietary choices/plans esp in the presence of exogenous insulin/gh...
Many guys have stated hgh + slin is a game changer. Big A himself recently stated the same thing so check out his interview on Anasci. Although I would say if a guy doesn't have it from AAS only they won't get it by adding in hgh, slin, lr3 etc. Sure they will help and I don't really want to put a number on things (different for everyone) but approx 70-80% of gains are aas. Meaning the likes of Jay Cutler, Ramy, Dexter, Heath etc could look similar to how they do on AAS only. The slin and hgh can bring about much more size but it's not like if AAS gets you to 220 the slin and hgh will put you up to 320.
To a point your right. Exogenous insulin really does make a difference for the vast majority of people.
Your preaching to the choir Xman haha I'm mentoring with Milos
Definitely agree man! There are some clear guidelines that most should considering following
Agreed Elvia. They're all part of the equation just as much as base genetics and your genetic response to AAS/slin/gh/growth factors
What is your slin protocol at the moment under Milos? Thanks
PM coming your way
You should have just said sorry I can't as he would rather me not disclose things. Now you are gonna have 30 guys pm you asking for your slin protocol I imagine it's similar to what I have heard before and I actually tried not so long ago. Thanks
I have read you don't want fats post workout. I also hear it's a myth if you have already introduced your body to fats due to previous meals. Anyone care to chime in?