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Fellas That Train HIT/Dorian Style How Is Your Cardio If You Even Do it?

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Curious even if you do cardio at a separate time or do it at all the same day as weight training. Do you have any energy in the tank to do any at all even hours later?
 
Why does it matter with the style of training 🤔
 
I recall his highest frequency was two on, one off. I don't think I've ever read that he did 12-14 exercises per session.
 
He trained 5x per week. He did one WORKING set per exercise. He did about 12 exercises per session. Granted, he switched it up but that is my understanding of his basic foundation. This might help as it is HIS words exactly: https://www.instagram.com/reels/C8m0AqlsFfT/

Where in this video does he say anything about doing 12-14 exercises per session?

I’ve never heard him say that. As a matter of fact, he has plenty of videos saying people do too many exercises per session and too many per body part. He’s said he sees people doing 3-4 exercises for biceps, why? They literally only do one thing, pick 1 exercise and go to failure and move on. He’s said for triceps he’ll do 1 overhead and 1 push down exercise max. For back, he would do pull overs, barbell or Kroc rows, Deadlifts, Cable Rows OR Pull Downs. He has plenty of videos where he’s asked about his back routine considering he had one of the best backs ever, saying “3-4 exercises for Back and LEAVE THE GYM.”

I think you guys are confusing number of exercises for number of working sets/warm up sets.
 
Where in this video does he say anything about doing 12-14 exercises per session?

I’ve never heard him say that. As a matter of fact, he has plenty of videos saying people do too many exercises per session and too many per body part. He’s said he sees people doing 3-4 exercises for biceps, why? They literally only do one thing, pick 1 exercise and go to failure and move on. He’s said for triceps he’ll do 1 overhead and 1 push down exercise max. For back, he would do pull overs, barbell or Kroc rows, Deadlifts, Cable Rows OR Pull Downs. He has plenty of videos where he’s asked about his back routine considering he had one of the best backs ever, saying “3-4 exercises for Back and LEAVE THE GYM.”

I think you guys are confusing number of exercises for number of working sets/warm up sets.
Dorian has never done more so much exercises per session and he worked out 2 on 1 off
As you mentioned, back workout would be pullover -> pulldown -> barbell row -> s/a row -> deadlifts and rear delts
Biceps and triceps he mostly did 2~3 exercises, biceps with chest and triceps with shoulders.
So it would be something like 6~8 exercises per workout
 
He trained 5x per week. He did one WORKING set per exercise. He did about 12 exercises per session. Granted, he switched it up but that is my understanding of his basic foundation. This might help as it is HIS words exactly: https://www.instagram.com/reels/C8m0AqlsFfT/

Maaaaaybe he did early on but we all associate Dorian’s training with his blood and guts dvd era and what he’s most known for

Where he trained 4x per week and about 5-8 exercises / working sets per workout

I’ve never once seen him mention about 5x per week or 12-14 exercises per sessions

Maybe we’re on about different Dorian’s ? 🤷‍♂️
 
Curious even if you do cardio at a separate time or do it at all the same day as weight training. Do you have any energy in the tank to do any at all even hours later?
you don't need "energy in the tank" to do cardio
you have glycogen stores. When those are empty, you have bodyfat.

unless you are 3% bodyfat right now and havent eaten anything for a while, you can do as much cardio as you like.
 
Where in this video does he say anything about doing 12-14 exercises per session?

I’ve never heard him say that. As a matter of fact, he has plenty of videos saying people do too many exercises per session and too many per body part. He’s said he sees people doing 3-4 exercises for biceps, why? They literally only do one thing, pick 1 exercise and go to failure and move on. He’s said for triceps he’ll do 1 overhead and 1 push down exercise max. For back, he would do pull overs, barbell or Kroc rows, Deadlifts, Cable Rows OR Pull Downs. He has plenty of videos where he’s asked about his back routine considering he had one of the best backs ever, saying “3-4 exercises for Back and LEAVE THE GYM.”

I think you guys are confusing number of exercises for number of working sets/warm up sets.
I follow him on IG. Here is a photo his log book with an explanation of how he started training one way then switched to the Blood and Guts later in his career. In the log book pic i count 9-10 exercises. I am sorry if I over stated by saying 12-14. That is how many I do which in my OP I said Dorian "STYLE"...I never actually counted Dorian's number until you brought it up but it is kinda splitting hairs. IMO, The idea is low volume at a high intensity.
 
I follow him on IG. Here is a photo his log book with an explanation of how he started training one way then switched to the Blood and Guts later in his career. In the log book pic i count 9-10 exercises. I am sorry if I over stated by saying 12-14. That is how many I do which in my OP I said Dorian "STYLE"...I never actually counted Dorian's number until you brought it up but it is kinda splitting hairs. IMO, The idea is low volume at a high intensity.
Umm for the 18th I count 8 exercises total for Back and Delts, he has “Pullover” written down twice at the top. And for the 23rd he’s got 7 exercises total for Back and Delts. But yea, I forgot he would add rear delts, shrugs to his back days. So yea, it is somewhere in the middle. You also didn’t say what your workout days included, so I think we assumed you would do 14 exercises for Back, for example. So in my mind I was like “what the hell is this guy doing? Even if he does 1 warm up and 1 to failure that’s like 28 sets 😂 and is he using every single back machine in the gym?”

When yea, if you’re doing Back, Delts, Tris for example, I can see the 12-14 exercises total.
 
Umm for the 18th I count 8 exercises total for Back and Delts, he has “Pullover” written down twice at the top. And for the 23rd he’s got 7 exercises total for Back and Delts. But yea, I forgot he would add rear delts, shrugs to his back days. So yea, it is somewhere in the middle. You also didn’t say what your workout days included, so I think we assumed you would do 14 exercises for Back, for example. So in my mind I was like “what the hell is this guy doing? Even if he does 1 warm up and 1 to failure that’s like 28 sets 😂 and is he using every single back machine in the gym?”

When yea, if you’re doing Back, Delts, Tris for example, I can see the 12-14 exercises total.
So personally, I am doing an Push/Pull split. Push: chest, side delts, front delts, triceps, quads, calves. GENERALLY, 2 exercises for each region. Obv NOT what Dorian did. But the idea of one all out set to failure is what I was commenting on. Chest (rev grip incline smith press and arsenal flyes) Front Delts (selector machine military), Side Delts (Y-Raise and selector laterals), triceps (JM Press and pushdowns) quads (leg extensions one set bilateral one set unilateral and pendulum squats), calves (3 sets of standing calf raise). The only exercise I do multiple sets on is calves just do to preference. That is 13 working sets. I do this a min of 2x per week and every other week depending on the rotation will give me a 3rd session. Push/Off/Pull/Push/Pull/Off/Push. The next week I start with Pull...so over 4 weeks I hit each muscle region 10x. 20 Workouts over 28 days. My PULL day is: Upper back x2 exercises (rows), Lats (pulldowns), Rear Delts, Traps, Biceps x2, Forearms, Hamstrings x2 and Adductors with a total of about 11 exercises for 11 sets.
 
No matter what training style I’m doing I stick to fasted Am Cardio. Workouts are in the afternoon. I only do cardio after a workout if trying to shave last couple lbs’s off otherwise I try to keep it away from my workout routine.
 
Not that I do HIT but I do cardio immediately post workout usually just 15 mins moderate or 2-3 mins HIT cardio and then I take two 25 minutes later in the day.
 

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