Fertility Protocol?

Landmonster · Oct 31, 2016

Guys,

Just wondering what is considered the most up-to-date fertility protocols for a bodybuilder?

I am assuming HCG is part of the mix, but how much and how often?
Should all AAS besides Test be eliminated?
Are there any other drugs or supplements that are wise to add?

Landmonster · Oct 31, 2016

So, let's keep in mind that the main goal would be to gain fertility. The secondary goal would be to maintain muscle mass, without negatively impacting fertility.

Here are 2 bonus questions, since I know that achieving good fertility may take a while...

1) Is there anything we can take to help preserve muscle-mass without negatively impacting fertility and sperm quality? Would things like hGH, Mk-677, or GH peptides be viable options... or no?

2) Are there any specific steroids that are known NOT to affect sperm count, and thus be "safe" for fertility? (I'm assuming they all have negative effects, even TRT levels of Test)

bigmills · Oct 31, 2016

Landmonster said:
So, let's keep in mind that the main goal would be to gain fertility. The secondary goal would be to maintain muscle mass, without negatively impacting fertility.

Here are 2 bonus questions, since I know that achieving good fertility may take a while...

1) Is there anything we can take to help preserve muscle-mass without negatively impacting fertility and sperm quality? Would things like hGH, Mk-677, or GH peptides be viable options... or no?

2) Are there any specific steroids that are known NOT to affect sperm count, and thus be "safe" for fertility? (I'm assuming they all have negative effects, even TRT levels of Test)

To be honest I'm not saying it is not true that you cannot get your girlfriend or wife pregnant while on cycle. However I did and so have plenty of my buddies. In fact I have a friend who is a ifbb pro that has competed in the Olympia twice so I don't think he really ever comes off completely and has 4 Kids. Maybe just add some Clomid to the mix and see what happens it might take a month or two nothing is instant even when you are completely natural. Good luck brother I hope it works for you

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Giants83 · Oct 31, 2016

My wife is pregnant and I was on test only. I've been cruising and blasting for well over a year. I bought one of those sperm tests off Amazon. It only lets you know whether you have a low or normal count. Mine was normal. As far as protocol goes if you need is HCG and HMG. If you do need to come off then try going with a peptide cycle to preserve any muscle. MK677 and DAC is a simple and effective combination. If having a child is really important to you and your lady then forget about losing anything. Focus on starting your family. Do what you have to do. Like I said though first thing is check your sperm count. Myself and many other guys never even had to come off to have kids. Wish you the best!!

Rome1 · Nov 4, 2016

First question is how do you know that you aren't fertile? Go from there

stillgelegt · Nov 4, 2016

I went off for 3 months. I only did 25 to 50 mg of clom ed and had a sperm count of 1. Not 1 million, only 1. After that i've reduced the clom to 25mg eod, reintroduced test at 150mg per week and added 500iu hcg three times a week.
4 weeks later my wife was prego.

BRINGTHEPAIN23 · Nov 4, 2016

I was on HRT and HCG wife is pergo Now

biglizard225 · Nov 4, 2016

I was on heavy and got mine prego, been on for a while too.

My suggestion to guys wanting to knock the wife up, have more sex. A couple times a day 5-7 days a week. Trust me if either partner has remotely any fertility left she'll get prego

RoyHobbs · Nov 4, 2016

biglizard225 said:
I was on heavy and got mine prego, been on for a while too.

My suggestion to guys wanting to knock the wife up, have more sex. A couple times a day 5-7 days a week. Trust me if either partner has remotely any fertility left she'll get prego

That sounds good and fun but is useless other than fun. Ovulation lasts about 5 days and starts about 2 weeks before a woman's period. You have about 24hrs after ovulation starts to fertilize an egg. That's your window.

Sperm also live up to 5 days in the female reproductive system so multiple times per day isn't necessary either except for fun.

I'm all for having as much sex as possible but for the purpose of conception more is not better, timing is.

Growthman · Nov 5, 2016

You asked for most up to date; not sure about the latest fad but this worked to get us pregnant this year;

(From late 90's/early 2000's)

Hcg 2000iu eod for 15-20 days
Nolvadex 20-40mg ed (start high then taper)
Clomid 50-100mg ed (start high then taper)

whester318 · Nov 8, 2016

a article about steroids abuse and male infertility(https://bacandrology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12610-016-0029-4
hCG just like weak FSH , taking hCG during your cycle will help sperm count up. Taking hMG would be even better

fit2grow · Nov 10, 2016

Before spending the money on hmg. I've heard from a couple people that it can be fake. If you do have the money I would go to a fertility specialist. Most people have luck with hcg.

Bigunitny · Nov 10, 2016

Growthman said:
You asked for most up to date; not sure about the latest fad but this worked to get us pregnant this year;

(From late 90's/early 2000's)

Hcg 2000iu eod for 15-20 days

Nolvadex 20-40mg ed (start high then taper)

Clomid 50-100mg ed (start high then taper)