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Fertility protocol

jake76

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Trying to figure how to go about this. I'm 44 and been using aas on and off for about 15 years. My sperm volume is very low so I know nothing is happening there. Present gf wants to try for pregnancy. My question is, is hmg superior to hcg? Should they be used together or no? What would be a good dosing schedule for this? If anyone has experience or knowledge can help I really appreciate it. Thanks.
 

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250iu HCG EOD
75iu HMG EOD
Clomid 25mg ED

It will take at least 3 months but realistically probably 6-12 months.
 

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Ive been on the grind for a couple months now and still probably need a couple more.
And there are SEVERAL fertility protocols, all probably work, but HMG is a must.
Hcg will get stuff moving but HMG is the bulldozer here to really speed it up.
Right now I'm on

75iu HMG 3x/week
1250iu HCG 2x/week
Clomid 25mg ED

I've been running generics which probably is a shit idea. But i just got real HCG from a doc buddy of mine this morning.
The biggest bitch is the HMG. Its basically impossible to get it prescribed to you in the US anymore. Most docs are barely knowledgable in the our cases and wont give you HMG at all. I'm in the process of spending some $$$ for some pharma stuff overseas. Expensive but that shit WILL work.
 

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You should also do a search. There's been a lot on this subject! Just type in fertility and check the 'search titles only' box.
 

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One thing that is not mentioned often is the role IGF plays in spermatogenesis. You should contemplate supplemental GH if your IGF isn’t in a good range on your fertility program.
 

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Ive been on the grind for a couple months now and still probably need a couple more.
And there are SEVERAL fertility protocols, all probably work, but HMG is a must.
Hcg will get stuff moving but HMG is the bulldozer here to really speed it up.
Right now I'm on

75iu HMG 3x/week
1250iu HCG 2x/week
Clomid 25mg ED

I've been running generics which probably is a shit idea. But i just got real HCG from a doc buddy of mine this morning.
The biggest bitch is the HMG. Its basically impossible to get it prescribed to you in the US anymore. Most docs are barely knowledgable in the our cases and wont give you HMG at all. I'm in the process of spending some $$$ for some pharma stuff overseas. Expensive but that shit WILL work.

Some decent HMG from U.K. sites
 

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250iu HCG EOD
75iu HMG EOD
Clomid 25mg ED

It will take at least 3 months but realistically probably 6-12 months.
Thanks so you can take the clomid ed for 3 months to a year? I didn't know you could use for that long... I've always feared clomid depression so I've never used it before... also since the hmg and hcg are both eod would you use them on separate days or on the same day or probably doesn't matter?
 

jake76

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Ive been on the grind for a couple months now and still probably need a couple more.
And there are SEVERAL fertility protocols, all probably work, but HMG is a must.
Hcg will get stuff moving but HMG is the bulldozer here to really speed it up.
Right now I'm on

75iu HMG 3x/week
1250iu HCG 2x/week
Clomid 25mg ED

I've been running generics which probably is a shit idea. But i just got real HCG from a doc buddy of mine this morning.
The biggest bitch is the HMG. Its basically impossible to get it prescribed to you in the US anymore. Most docs are barely knowledgable in the our cases and wont give you HMG at all. I'm in the process of spending some $$$ for some pharma stuff overseas. Expensive but that shit WILL work.
Thanks have you seen any improvements so far? Are you getting tested or do you at least have more sperm production?
 

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Are y’all still running low dose test or anything on this?
 

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250iu HCG EOD
75iu HMG EOD
Clomid 25mg ED

It will take at least 3 months but realistically probably 6-12 months.

What’s your input on people who conceive sooner than 3 months? I know they say it takes 2-3 months to have mature sperm etc but I’ve seen a few cases where the 1st or 2nd month they’re successful with pregnancy..

Would that be a case that the man didn’t necessarily have zero sperm but maybe just a lower count and it was able to speed things up?

Also, do you think Clomid is necessary?

I’ve seen the studies and info on supplemental GH raising sperm count, but I don’t remember how significant the increase was..

I also hear injectable Glutathione is great for fertility as well..
 

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