First Cycle 2.0

MycoPhage · Oct 14, 2006

OK, so i've come to my senses and decided to add test to my first cycle. i'm a little put off that i can't use proscar/propecia because of the nandrolone, but i'm thinking 10 weeks @275mg shouldn't cause dramatic sides.

i split up the winny doses into two little cycles because the 40mg/day dose is kinda high, so i figured i'd do it twice to give myself a little time to heal in between.

i'm 6'0, 215 lbs and about 16% body fat. i plan on lifting hard 4x a week, and doing cardio (mixed martial arts sparring) 2x per week x 1.5 hours each session.

i will also be taking a daily multivitamin, 5-HTP, yohimbe, flax seed oil, creatine ethyl ester, and of course, abstaining from alcohol.

do you guys see any problems with this schedule? i'm thinking of dropping the deca down to 350mg/week, as 400 is a little over the 2mg/lb LBM ratio.

My attached jpg. is a graphical representation of the cycle for easy viewing!
Weeks 1-12 Nandrolone Decanoate @ 400mg/week
Weeks 1-4 Winstol oral @ 40mg/day
Weeks 1-10 Sustanon (cheaper than other tests!) @275mg/week
Weeks 9-12 Winstrol oral @ 40mg/day (again)

3 weeks clean

PCT:
Nolvadex 160mg week 1, 140mg week 2 (split into daily doses)
Clomid 100mg/day for 3 weeks, then 50mg/day for 2 weeks

what do you guys think about dosing regimen? the IMs shouldn't matte what time of day, but what about the orals? winny in the morning/night? PCT drugs?

thanks in advance for the help guys

rrozell · Oct 15, 2006

275 a wk, are you joking. dont waste your money.

K1 · Oct 15, 2006

MycoPhage said:
OK, so i've come to my senses and decided to add test to my first cycle. i'm a little put off that i can't use proscar/propecia because of the nandrolone, but i'm thinking 10 weeks @275mg shouldn't cause dramatic sides.

i split up the winny doses into two little cycles because the 40mg/day dose is kinda high, so i figured i'd do it twice to give myself a little time to heal in between.

i'm 6'0, 215 lbs and about 16% body fat. i plan on lifting hard 4x a week, and doing cardio (mixed martial arts sparring) 2x per week x 1.5 hours each session.

i will also be taking a daily multivitamin, 5-HTP, yohimbe, flax seed oil, creatine ethyl ester, and of course, abstaining from alcohol.

do you guys see any problems with this schedule? i'm thinking of dropping the deca down to 350mg/week, as 400 is a little over the 2mg/lb LBM ratio.

My attached jpg. is a graphical representation of the cycle for easy viewing!
Weeks 1-12 Nandrolone Decanoate @ 400mg/week I would run this for only 10wks.
Weeks 1-4 Winstol oral @ 40mg/day I would run Dbol, Tbol or Adrol for the kick start.
Weeks 1-10 Sustanon (cheaper than other tests!) @275mg/week I would run this for 12wks (2wks longer then the Deca), and run it at atleast 500mg/wk.
Weeks 9-12 Winstrol oral @ 40mg/day (again) I would run this form wk7-12.

3 weeks clean

PCT:
Nolvadex 160mg week 1, 140mg week 2 (split into daily doses)
Clomid 100mg/day for 3 weeks, then 50mg/day for 2 weeks
Run pct as such:
wk15 Clomid 100mg-Nolva 40mg/ed
wk16 Clomid 50mg-Nolva 30mg/ed
wk17 Clomid 50mg-Nolva 20mg/ed

what do you guys think about dosing regimen? the IMs shouldn't matte what time of day, but what about the orals? winny in the morning/night? PCT drugs?
The orals should be split up evenly throughout the day.
thanks in advance for the help guys

Suggestions in red..........

MycoPhage · Oct 16, 2006

goals

haha, guess i left my goals out of this!

i'd like to build good, quality mass that won't disappear after i stop the cycle. i'd also like to be down to <10% body fat at the end, and actually have some abs for once haha. i DO NOT CARE about deca dick, there are sadly no opportunities to use it where i'm at, but i do care about gyno, bloat, and hairloss.

so, i'm thinking now of upping the test to 500/week and putting the winny at the end. any estimations of side effects i'll experience at this dose? should i order more clo/nolvadex than i need for PCT, just in case i need it to fight gyno?

what guage needles should i get? 21/23?

thanks again for all the help guys

K1 · Oct 16, 2006

MycoPhage said:
haha, guess i left my goals out of this!

i'd like to build good, quality mass that won't disappear after i stop the cycle. i'd also like to be down to <10% body fat at the end, and actually have some abs for once haha. i DO NOT CARE about deca dick, there are sadly no opportunities to use it where i'm at, but i do care about gyno, bloat, and hairloss. This is a very basic cycle, every indiviual is different in regards to side effects, but wouldn't think that the sides would be too outstanding.

so, i'm thinking now of upping the test to 500/week and putting the winny at the end. any estimations of side effects i'll experience at this dose? should i order more clo/nolvadex than i need for PCT, just in case i need it to fight gyno? Always keep extra Nolva on hand in case of signs of gyno or excessive bloating.

what guage needles should i get? 21/23? 23g 1 1/2" for glutes and 25g 1" for everything else.

thanks again for all the help guys

Suggestions in red...........