First Cycle... Need critiques!

[darkscythe69]

Week 1 & 2:
Superdrol 10mg ED + 500mg Test Cyp (250 mon/thu)

Week 3:
SD 20mg ED + 500mg Test Cyp (250 mon/thu)
Start HCG 250 IU's on injection days

Week 4:
SD 20mg ED + 500mg Test Cyp (250 mon/thu)
HCG 250 IU's on injection days

**At this point I will asses if I have too much bloat
and if so, will start using .25mg anastrozole EOD

Week 5 - 7:
500mg Test Cyp (250 mon/thu)
HCG 250 IU's on injection days

Week 8-10:
500mg Test Cyp (250 mon/thu)
HCG 250 IU's on injection days
50mg Stanozolol ED

Week 11 & 12:
HCG 250 IU's on injection days
50mg Stanozolol ED

*PCT starts on DAY4 after your last HCG shot. (right?)

So wait 4 days after the last hcg injection.

At this time I might choose to dabble in some IGF-LR3 (30mcg ED)

Week 13 (PCT week 1):
Clomid 50mg ED (Maybe 100mg the first day??)
Torem 120mg ED

Week 14 (PCT week 2):
Clomid 50mg ED
Torem 90mg ED

Week 15 (PCT week 3):
Clomid 25mg ED
Torem 60mg ED

Week 16 (PCT week 4):
Clomid 25mg ED
Torem 30mg ED

I also have the choice of using oral Stanozolol or Inj. But the inj.

would cost me 2x as much.


Stats: 6'1 230 lbs @ about 12-13% bf


Any suggestions?

Am I G2g?

 

[richiec]

what are your goals? How long have you been training? what's your diet like? how old are you? there are many variables to take into account.

 

[5004paloma]

PCT Question

Week 1 & 2:
Superdrol 10mg ED + 500mg Test Cyp (250 mon/thu)

Week 3:
SD 20mg ED + 500mg Test Cyp (250 mon/thu)
Start HCG 250 IU's on injection days

Week 4:
SD 20mg ED + 500mg Test Cyp (250 mon/thu)
HCG 250 IU's on injection days

**At this point I will asses if I have too much bloat
and if so, will start using .25mg anastrozole EOD

Week 5 - 7:
500mg Test Cyp (250 mon/thu)
HCG 250 IU's on injection days

Week 8-10:
500mg Test Cyp (250 mon/thu)
HCG 250 IU's on injection days
50mg Stanozolol ED

Week 11 & 12:
HCG 250 IU's on injection days
50mg Stanozolol ED

*PCT starts on DAY4 after your last HCG shot. (right?)

So wait 4 days after the last hcg injection.

At this time I might choose to dabble in some IGF-LR3 (30mcg ED)

Week 13 (PCT week 1):
Clomid 50mg ED (Maybe 100mg the first day??)
Torem 120mg ED

Week 14 (PCT week 2):
Clomid 50mg ED
Torem 90mg ED

Week 15 (PCT week 3):
Clomid 25mg ED
Torem 60mg ED

Week 16 (PCT week 4):
Clomid 25mg ED
Torem 30mg ED

I also have the choice of using oral Stanozolol or Inj. But the inj.

would cost me 2x as much.


Stats: 6'1 230 lbs @ about 12-13% bf


Any suggestions?

Am I G2g?

What is your reasoning for using both Clomid and Toremefine during PCT? Also, not my experience but what I've read extensively about is that Aromasin is the best on-cycle anti-e compound and should be run at a low dose everyday even if you don't notice side effects from the test. It's also easy on the lipids (a good thing when running SD) and has no rebound estrogen effect when you stop taking it.

 

[PsyT]

read Big A's growth principles for beginners!

 

[Quad-smack]

Ditch the SD.
Just fine with the test.
HCG if necessary.
Clomid at the end.
Keep it simple...
Good luck with your project.

 

[RESTLESS1]

^^^^^x2......

 

[darkscythe69]

what are your goals? How long have you been training? what's your diet like? how old are you? there are many variables to take into account.

Goals are to be able to keep about 10-15 lbs lean mass, as well as perhaps lean up a bit in the process.

I have been training for about 5 years, my diet consists of 6-7 meals spread throughout the day, first half of the day protein + carbs, second half is protein + fats and veggies.

Cals I would guess about 3500 or more

What is your reasoning for using both Clomid and Toremefine during PCT? Also, not my experience but what I've read extensively about is that Aromasin is the best on-cycle anti-e compound and should be run at a low dose everyday even if you don't notice side effects from the test. It's also easy on the lipids (a good thing when running SD) and has no rebound estrogen effect when you stop taking it.

The reasoning behind the torem is that from many peoples experiences(ones that have tried torem) helps them restore a lil faster than nolva, and that they feel that their recovery and libido comes back way faster, and the addition of clomid is that torem/nolva from what I have read aren't nearly as good as hpta regulators.

I will definately give aromasin more research and consider switching the a-dex for it.

Ditch the SD.
Just fine with the test.
HCG if necessary.
Clomid at the end.
Keep it simple...
Good luck with your project.

Thank you, I understand that the ideal thing for me to do would be to just do test & clomid.

However, from what I gather, I believe that my androgen receptors are fresh and no one gets gains like they do in their first cycle so I want to take full advantage of this fact. Ideally yes, I would drop the SD, but that's the one thing im gonna be stubborn about.

I understand I'm asking you guys for advice and not following some of it is kind of dumb, but I just believe that I should take full advantage of this cycle.

 

[PsyT]

^ some bro-science right there at the end

what makes a receptor fresh? Can it get stale then?

Did you know actually AAS use INCREASES the amount (expression) of the androgen receptor...so waiting til later to bombard yourself with more AAS makes sense to me...from a scientific and commonsense view...

 

[Quad-smack]

Wow. I guess its true.
Wise men do not NEED advice...
Foolish men do not HEED advice...
I think I'm going to bite my tongue in the future and not waste my time.
Best of luck to you.
Peace

 

[tri-terror]

Taking superdrol is retarded in and of itself, but stacking it with real gear? WTF man? If you have to run an oral on your first cycle get your self some A bombs, or D bol dude. Run that for 6-8 weeks.

 

[Mike09100]

Yeah man id 3x that, keep it simple. Clomid at the end bud...

Goodluck though!