First Cycle Sustanon Advice

safe T steve · Feb 26, 2014

Hi
This is my first post and first cycle so bear with me lol
I have been doing lots of research so I think it time I get more active and get some real feedback =]

Here are my stats
5’11”
200 lbs
18% BF
33 years old

Snapped my femur 2 years ago and lost a lot of size so I am ready to get it back

So far my first cycle looks like this

Week 1 - 10
1 cc Sustanon 325 every 5 days for 10 weeks
Femara ¼ tab of 25mg EOD
HCG 100uis EOD starting week 2

Week 11 – 13
Femara ¼ tab EOD
HCG 250ius EOD

Week 14 – 19
PCT – 4 days after last HCG Shot
Nova 40/40/20/20
Clomid 75/50/50/50

Going to do blood work before, middle, and after.

Question I am having a hard time with =]

1. During cycle do I take femara and/or clomid

a. From what I have seen you can take femera only if you experience sensitivity in your nipples or you can take it EOD?
b. I have also heard that I could take clomid instead of femera if I have sensitivity?
c. I would like to take armidex over femera just have to find some …

2. HCG?

a. I have seen it taken all cycle?
b. I have seen it taken the last 2 weeks to kick start the nuts?
c. I have seen it taken 2 weeks after the last pin to start the nuts?
d. I have seen it not taken at all?

3. Bloodwork

a. What tests do I get?
b. I suppose I get free test and total test… what do I need to get to measure estrogen levels?

Thanks

Sustanon 325 Specs
Each 1ml per 10ml Vial contains
30mg/ml Testosterone Acetate
50mg/ml Testosterone Propionate
50mg/ml Testosterone Phenylpropionate
90 mg/ml Testosterone Cypionate
105mg/ml Testosterone Decanoate

So the half life would look something like this (adding 325 mg every 5 days) all numbers are mg

week 1 325mg
week 2 460mg
week 3 751mg
week 4 685mg
week 5 951mg
week 6 829mg
week 7 734mg
week 8 942mg
week 9 818mg
week 10 1045mg
week 11 639mg
week 12 429mg
week 13 296mg
week 14 207mg
week 15 145mg
week 16 102mg

I attached a better picture of it with the breakdown and the excel sheet I created in case anyone wants it =]

safe T steve · Jun 18, 2014

anyone?

BigDM · Jun 18, 2014

Okay, here's my $0.02:

Week 1-10 - Sust 500mg/wk
Week 1-10 - HCG 500iu/wk (if needed)

No need to take clomid during cycle imho. Bloodwork is recommended, but a 10 week cycle w/o orals isn't going to do a lot of damage, so that's entirely up to you. This is a very simple cycle and you should be just fine.

PCT looks good to me.

Good luck bro

thebigguy84 · Jun 18, 2014

Needs to be taked eod for best results. Also firs cycle you do not need over 500mg a week plain and simple.

THEBIGGUY84

ALLEX · Jun 19, 2014

With 18% BF, I'd do a totally different approach.

Solid diet, some cardio. Support your muscles with 150mg test and 50mg of var daily for 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off. 250mcg 2x a week throughout.

When you reach single digits BF, switch to a bulker. Something like 500mg test is fine, add a little dbol if you want. Keep the HCG and add some AI.

With high BF, choosing a medium-high test approach leads to too much bloat. Doing what I describe here, you'll end this leaner and hopefully looking more like a physique/bodybuilder guy instead of a strongman.

Hope this helps.

Pharm_Fed · Jun 19, 2014

ALLEX said:
With 18% BF, I'd do a totally different approach.

Solid diet, some cardio. Support your muscles with 150mg test and 50mg of var daily for 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off. 250mcg 2x a week throughout.

When you reach single digits BF, switch to a bulker. Something like 500mg test is fine, add a little dbol if you want. Keep the HCG and add some AI.

With high BF, choosing a medium-high test approach leads to too much bloat. Doing what I describe here, you'll end this leaner and hopefully looking more like a physique/bodybuilder guy instead of a strongman.

Hope this helps.

I like this idea better as well.

Cerberus777 · Jun 19, 2014

ALLEX said:
With 18% BF, I'd do a totally different approach.

Solid diet, some cardio. Support your muscles with 150mg test and 50mg of var daily for 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off. 250mcg 2x a week throughout.

When you reach single digits BF, switch to a bulker. Something like 500mg test is fine, add a little dbol if you want. Keep the HCG and add some AI.

With high BF, choosing a medium-high test approach leads to too much bloat. Doing what I describe here, you'll end this leaner and hopefully looking more like a physique/bodybuilder guy instead of a strongman.

Hope this helps.

Great advice, and ditch the femeria. If you start using large doses you may consider it...but the lasting side effects aren't worth it for such small doses. At 18% you're going to have a harder time controlling estrogen. DHT helps this.

safe T steve · Jun 19, 2014

ALLEX said:
With 18% BF, I'd do a totally different approach.

Solid diet, some cardio. Support your muscles with 150mg test and 50mg of var daily for 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off. 250mcg 2x a week throughout.

When you reach single digits BF, switch to a bulker. Something like 500mg test is fine, add a little dbol if you want. Keep the HCG and add some AI.

With high BF, choosing a medium-high test approach leads to too much bloat. Doing what I describe here, you'll end this leaner and hopefully looking more like a physique/bodybuilder guy instead of a strongman.

Hope this helps.

thanks helps alot =]
i have been told to get to single digits before the test cycle so that makes sense

is that 150mg of test a day with the var or a week? i know the var would be 50mg a day...

thanks for all the responses =]

BigDM · Jun 19, 2014

ALLEX said:
With 18% BF, I'd do a totally different approach.

Solid diet, some cardio. Support your muscles with 150mg test and 50mg of var daily for 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off. 250mcg 2x a week throughout.

When you reach single digits BF, switch to a bulker. Something like 500mg test is fine, add a little dbol if you want. Keep the HCG and add some AI.

With high BF, choosing a medium-high test approach leads to too much bloat. Doing what I describe here, you'll end this leaner and hopefully looking more like a physique/bodybuilder guy instead of a strongman.

Hope this helps.