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Fish oil is antiestrogenic in human studies

J.Blaze

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Test tube study: fish oil is anti-estrogenic

Extremely high doses of the fish fatty acid DHA may help protect the body from the impact of the female sex hormone estradiol. This is suggested by research done at the National Taiwan University, in which molecular scientists exposed human breast cancer cells to the fatty acid in test tubes. The experiment showed that DHA encourages cells to break down estradiol receptors.
The Taiwanese performed experiments because they were looking for an extra way to fight estradiol-sensitive cancers. Long-term treatment with the anti-estrogen Nolvadex makes some cells resistant. While the medicine does kick the estradiol-alpha receptors out of the cell’s nucleus, they manage to keep going outside. Because DHA – full name docosahexaenoic acid – inhibits cancer in many experiments, the researchers hoped that the fish fatty acid might possibly also play role. It might sound a little strange, but you never know your luck.

The longer the exposure, the more estradiol-alpha receptors were destroyed in the cell nucleus. The omega-6 fatty acid arachidonic acid enhanced the reduction of the number of estradiol receptors.
When the researchers repeated their experiment with the proteasome inhibitor (MG132) they detected no effect. See below.
The proteasome is a molecular shredder that cuts up wrong bits of proteins into small pieces. If you give the cells enough DHA, it appears they also clear up estradiol-alpha receptors.
Bodybuilders who experiment with high doses of fish fatty acids report that they become drier. This could have something to do with the effect the Taiwanese came across.
Fish fatty acids are interesting to bodybuilders for other reasons too. A diet that is rich in fish fatty acids raises the concentration of IGF-1 in the body, enhances fat burning and inhibits the growth of fat reserves. These effects have been shown in animal studies, test tube studies, experiments and human trials. Animal studies also suggest that fish-oil in the diet helps muscles to recover more quickly after training.


Source:
J Nutr Biochem. 2009 Apr 13. [Epub ahead of print].
 
EXCELLENT, J.BLAZE!

Thanks for posting that! More information like this would be awesome.

I just had a teaspoon of ultra-refined fishoil before I logged on!
 
I take 9-10 capsules a day, usually like 3 with a meal. What does everyone else take?
 
This is my favorite supp. The benefits of fish oil go on and on. I personally have a lot of joint pain from years of martial arts. I took glucosamine, no dice. I took fish oil and the joint pain goes away. It also improves circulation for the penis and helps with depression. This shit is great. Everyone who lives a long time has one thing in common, a consistant intake of fish oil.
 
Test tube study: fish oil is anti-estrogenic

Extremely high doses of the fish fatty acid DHA may help protect the body from the impact of the female sex hormone estradiol. This is suggested by research done at the National Taiwan University, in which molecular scientists exposed human breast cancer cells to the fatty acid in test tubes. The experiment showed that DHA encourages cells to break down estradiol receptors.
The Taiwanese performed experiments because they were looking for an extra way to fight estradiol-sensitive cancers. Long-term treatment with the anti-estrogen Nolvadex makes some cells resistant. While the medicine does kick the estradiol-alpha receptors out of the cell’s nucleus, they manage to keep going outside. Because DHA – full name docosahexaenoic acid – inhibits cancer in many experiments, the researchers hoped that the fish fatty acid might possibly also play role. It might sound a little strange, but you never know your luck.

The longer the exposure, the more estradiol-alpha receptors were destroyed in the cell nucleus. The omega-6 fatty acid arachidonic acid enhanced the reduction of the number of estradiol receptors.
When the researchers repeated their experiment with the proteasome inhibitor (MG132) they detected no effect. See below.
The proteasome is a molecular shredder that cuts up wrong bits of proteins into small pieces. If you give the cells enough DHA, it appears they also clear up estradiol-alpha receptors.
Bodybuilders who experiment with high doses of fish fatty acids report that they become drier. This could have something to do with the effect the Taiwanese came across.
Fish fatty acids are interesting to bodybuilders for other reasons too. A diet that is rich in fish fatty acids raises the concentration of IGF-1 in the body, enhances fat burning and inhibits the growth of fat reserves. These effects have been shown in animal studies, test tube studies, experiments and human trials. Animal studies also suggest that fish-oil in the diet helps muscles to recover more quickly after training.


Source:
J Nutr Biochem. 2009 Apr 13. [Epub ahead of print].

Great post. That was news to me. Gonna up my dose :D
 
That's great news. I know it is more effective for raising testosterone than flax is, but this news is the perfect compliment for that effect. Perhaps this is the reason it is great for test production. Feedback loop. Guys, like Phil mentioned earlier, use ultra refined pure oil and use enough to start feeling "different". It reminds me of Humanofort's sense of well-being enhancing ability.
 
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I take some liquid norwegian stuff that contains 800 mgs EPA and 350 dha. My doctor wrote me a script for good fish oil but it was 500 bucks for three months worth. Too rich for me.
 
I take some liquid norwegian stuff that contains 800 mgs EPA and 350 dha. My doctor wrote me a script for good fish oil but it was 500 bucks for three months worth. Too rich for me.

yeah lovaza,great stuff,but EXPENSIVE!!!

Original poster any more information on this study?? they say "high doses" have shown to have an impact on estrogen.
What was the study dose?
 
yeah lovaza,great stuff,but EXPENSIVE!!!

Original poster any more information on this study?? they say "high doses" have shown to have an impact on estrogen.
What was the study dose?

Im not sure.

Ill do a search and get back to you on that.
 
One study and your ready to up your dose ?
How munch are you gonna up it ?
The study didn't indacate how much . It only stated
"Extremely high doses "

Are you going to start doing "Extremely high doses"?
I'm just keep doing that I'm doing before I'll go to "Extremely high doses" !
 
guys try googling this drug lovaza fish oil via perscription..
 
eh, 4 grams a day for me, its a moderate dose that doesnt hurt the wallet too much
 
Yeah, I do 4 grams a day and it seems to work for me. It just pisses me off when they dont say what the"higher dose" is.
 
Awesome post Blaze!

My friend takes 12 caps ED.

I just drink a shot straight out of the jar every morning. That's probably 15 to 20 caps worth...
 
I overheard someone the other day saying new studies are claiming negative effects of fish oils.

A quick google search I saw where they are thinking some pills have high levels of toxins from the oceans and the fish.

Thoughts?
 
^^ Some of the cheaper brands may not get all of the mercury out of the fish. The larger fish have higher amounts in their bodies. Most of the brands say mercury free. I only buy the kind that say mercury free. Ive been reading that krill is the best fish oil to get. Ive never tried it, but when I run out of the fish oils I have Im gonna give the krill a run.
 
I just noticed this was a test tube study.They exposed breast cancer cells directly to fish oil in a test tube.

So impossible to translate how much oral fish oil would be needed to have anti estrogen effects in the human body.
 

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