Follistatin......everyone has run out.

PHIL HERNON · Apr 16, 2011

Follistatin

Great product for strength and muscle gains........best one I ever used..even at 90%.........precision peptides brought it to the market first............now it is becoming available at 95-98% pure....Myostatin HMP also......it will be out for sale soon........I know for a fact...............but it takes a while to make it like that...........it aint the bathtub stuff you guys are making/selling and pointng fingers at everyone elses products..........and guess what, you guys complaining and pointing fingers can get to the end of the line, if at all.

sammy555 · Apr 16, 2011

I wasnt pointing fingers or anything,just seems the exteme and southern stuff is gonna be better than previous lots.I find the $6000 argument irrelivent as thats for PURE Follistatin. it doesnt interest me at the moment untill i hit another platue but may have a place in the future. You think this 95% stuffs gonna be good then obviously.

whytknyt05 · Apr 16, 2011

sammy555 said:
Pure Follistatin isnt 95% Follistatin now is it.Theres a huge differnce in refining 95 and 100%.The stuff thats been about so far is suposably 90%. Makes no odds to me as Follistatin doesnt seem to be that special really.

To be considered "Pure" Follistatin has to be at least 95%. Anything less than this is not Follistatin. There's no such thing as 91 or 94% Follistatin. Purity
Greater than 95.0% as determined by: (a) Analysis by RP-HPLC. (b) Analysis by SDS-PAGE
The separation of macromolecules in an electric field is called electrophoresis. A very common method for separating proteins by electrophoresis uses a discontinuous polyacrylamide gel as a support medium and sodium dodecyl sulfate (SDS) to denature the proteins. The method is called sodium dodecyl sulfate polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis (SDS-PAGE). The most commonly used system is also called the Laemmli method after U.K. Laemmli, who was the first to publish a paper employing SDS-PAGE in a scientific study.

In a nutshell this is the test that is done to products such as peptides to determine what they are. For Follistatin to be considered Follistatin it must be tested at 95% pure or above. Otherwise its called "Follistatin Like"

This is the same test that was ran on another companies "Follistatin" on this board and on other boards and it came back as: Bunk.

sammy555 · Apr 16, 2011

The stuff sold so far is Follistatin like then,thats fair comment but phil said he had results with it.The stuff on the way will be classed as Follistatin as its 95% +.The 6 grand stuff is a lot more pure than 95% obviously.

PHIL HERNON · Apr 16, 2011

Well

sammy555 said:
The stuff sold so far is Follistatin like then,thats fair comment but phil said he had results with it.The stuff on the way will be classed as Follistatin as its 95% +.The 6 grand stuff is a lot more pure than 95% obviously.

Yes, it was great...........it ws 90%, thats what it was...never 100%......it was never advertised as 100%.........95% is coming.......believe it. I will make sure you are at top of list Sammy.........

whytknyt05 · Apr 16, 2011

sammy555 said:
The stuff sold so far is Follistatin like then,thats fair comment but phil said he had results with it.The stuff on the way will be classed as Follistatin as its 95% +.The 6 grand stuff is a lot more pure than 95% obviously.

For a guy who doesnt care and isnt interested in Follistatin; you sure do seem to care alot about it.

Good thing because now you're in the front of the line to test the good stuff! Let me know how it works out for you.:headbang:

sammy555 · Apr 16, 2011

Phil said he had good results and is a respected Guy on the boards. Didn't think there had been much positive feedback on the stuff but keep an opened mind that's all. Always interested in new things.

Bionic · Apr 16, 2011

sammy555 said:
Extreme petides and southern reserch are geting 95% Follistatin at some point so they are obviously sourcing else where. These are about the only 2 peptide companys i truly trust. Be interesting to see what people make of there Follistatin, me ill stick to good old ghrp/cjc for now

Southern is the only site to state that their peps are American made. LOL! at PP being the first to bring Folli to market. It's really impossible to know who to trust in the pep game... and otherwise.

PHIL HERNON · Apr 16, 2011

Well

Bionic said:
Southern is the only site to state that their peps are American made. LOL! at PP being the first to bring Folli to market. It's really impossible to know who to trust in the pep game... and otherwise.

Let me throw this out there for anyone...........we will be selling american made peptides....BUT.....it costs 50 times the price..........50 times the price of foreign made. Foreign made is just as pure in MOST manufacturers....there is nothing wrong with foreign made.....you will pay for name only.........ready to pay $300 for GHRP-6? If so, PM me...........I can get them for you.

whytknyt05 · Apr 16, 2011

PHIL HERNON said:
Let me throw this out there for anyone...........we will be selling american made peptides....BUT.....it costs 50 times the price..........50 times the price of foreign made. Foreign made is just as pure in MOST manufacturers....there is nothing wrong with foreign made.....you will pay for name only.........ready to pay $300 for GHRP-6? If so, PM me...........I can get them for you.

Everything here is absolutely true. Go to AmericanPeptide. Its a $100 for 1mg of GHRP2. Manufacturing in the U.S. is the same for peptides as it is for everything else: Expensive. Peptides are no exception to the rule. There are good companies overseas; problem is there are ten bad ones for every good one. It will take a company time to sift thru them just like it takes a customer time to sift thru the sites on different forums. The only difference is the companies are out 15-20 thousand dollars: And we are out a hundred bucks.

I've been buying peps for 5yrs and Its been hit or miss at best. I've finally found a trusted site and all I can do is hope they stay in business. Otherwise I'll be Peptide Fishing Too!

956Vette · Apr 16, 2011

Bionic said:
Southern is the only site to state that their peps are American made. LOL! at PP being the first to bring Folli to market. It's really impossible to know who to trust in the pep game... and otherwise.

Many times it is a mix of these companies marketing to google and the peptide consumer. American made peptide claims are often deceptive, ignorant and/or foolish...mixed bag for certain.

Bionic · Apr 16, 2011

PHIL HERNON said:
Let me throw this out there for anyone...........we will be selling american made peptides....BUT.....it costs 50 times the price..........50 times the price of foreign made. Foreign made is just as pure in MOST manufacturers....there is nothing wrong with foreign made.....you will pay for name only.........ready to pay $300 for GHRP-6? If so, PM me...........I can get them for you.

Who is "We"? Like I stated earlier, SRC is claiming to sell American-manufactured peps and it's not 50x more, unless...

legaljuicer · Apr 16, 2011

I still remember when Jim T. from Precision Peptides tried to tell me that he had a Patent on his Follistatin.......amazing how lab results came out that it was not what was claimed plus everyone else was selling it. LOL!!!

rock75 · Apr 16, 2011

PHIL HERNON said:
Yes, it was great...........it ws 90%, thats what it was...never 100%......it was never advertised as 100%.........95% is coming.......believe it. I will make sure you are at top of list Sammy.........

Don't forget about me buddy

SRC · Apr 18, 2011

Bionic said:
Who is "We"? Like I stated earlier, SRC is claiming to sell American-manufactured peps and it's not 50x more, unless...

Bionic,

Thank you for the post. Please check your PM when you have a chance.

Thank you everyone for your support.

johnjuanb1 · Apr 18, 2011

How hard is it to get AAV1-FS344? What is the cost? This is the delivery route that is used in animal studies and now in human trials with muscular dystrophy patients. This is the real deal. This is what I'd like to research.

956Vette · Apr 18, 2011

SRC said:
Bionic,

Thank you for the post. Please check your PM when you have a chance.

Thank you everyone for your support.

Care to share publicly? Fraudulent product claims really sets back consumer confidence, particularly with peptide vendors.

SRC · Apr 18, 2011

956Vette said:
Care to share publicly? Fraudulent product claims really sets back consumer confidence, particularly with peptide vendors.

Of course Vette, I would be happy to.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SRC
Bionic,

I understand your questioning and uncertainty but anyone that has done business with us and researched our products can tell you there is a obvious difference in product quality. That is not to say other sponsors do not carry good product but we take several steps to insure the product you receive is the best quality possible. Also, know that we are not affiliated with any other retail company, much less on this board. Please feel free to call or email us anytime and we will be happy to shed more light on our manufacturing practices. I would be happy to answer any questions you might have.

Bionic, it is not my place to post your response but feel free to if you would like. Thank you for the conversation.

As a side note Vette, we are a transparent company. If you have any questions in regards to our products or manufacturing processes, please do not hesitate to contact us via email or phone.

Thanks again,

956Vette · Apr 18, 2011

SRC said:
we take several steps to insure the product you receive is the best quality possible.

Thank you SRC, I agree this is your duty and appreciate the diligence. Involving the manufacturing process is out of bounds (imho), help me to understand SRCs position please.

SRC peptides are advertised as "American Made Peptides." Why advertise Chevy (American products) when suppling the Lexus (Best of Asia or wherever) of peptides?

Prospective consumers (should) want to know if the peptide handler/supplier is honest. Are SRC's product claims correct?