Forget Landis Gatlin Busted

Vespa103 · Jul 30, 2006

Ok forget Landis, Justin Gatlin has failed both sample A and B announced today in an attempt to fly under the Landis radar

For anyone who is not aware Gatlin is our US olympic champion and the current world record holder in the premier track and field event and possibly the premier event of the entire summer Olympics the 100 meter dash

For those that remember the previous WR holder and the previous US Olympic champion Tim Montgomery was given a lifetime ban as well

Of course the prior WR belonging to Ben Johnson was thrown out as well

HUTCH · Jul 30, 2006

I am a former track runner and steroid, Gh, use is all over track and field on the national and world level...I ran at the same time as Gatlin in college and he made a huge jump in a very little time..most track runners would agree that every runner in a world championship final are on somthing illegal...I know guys and girls that I ran with in college that are now world class runners and they are using..some a lot some a little....No suprise to me...

Vespa103 · Jul 30, 2006

Hutch if you had to guess what would you think the fastest clean time would be(lifetime clean) can any sub 10 second time be trusted? Note any time by Lewis is out as he has failed a test as well.

littlemack · Jul 30, 2006

Hey Hutch. You ever come over to Texas and run in college? I got to be around some of the Baylor track guys in college. Michael Johnson was at the campus a lot helping. Those 4x400 guys were fast!

HUTCH · Jul 30, 2006

When I ran for Central Arizona, I went out to Odessa for JUCO Nationals but thats it..yup them Baylor boys are crazy fast 4, and 2 runners...

ironone1 · Jul 31, 2006

No surprise. When you run 9.77 you know he's on something. I'm sure Powell is probably on something as well. I also give Lance Armstrong alot of credit for never being caught in the Tour de France as his routine of using some sort of blockers is flawless.

latinking24 · Jul 31, 2006

im guessing he didnt use enough of the "cream" to raise his epitest level to match up 6/1 to his test level.

im very involved with the track and field world and i would say that 75-85 percent of elite athletes are using something. some may be on just t3/clen/ephedra. but allot are on GH, Slin, and T3. while the ballsier ones throw in test/var ect...

i would say the fastest clean time that could be run would be around a 9.95 with 2.0 wind. maybe a lil faster. the 100m and 60m is the most affected races by juicing. they all are affected but these are the most.

latinking24 · Jul 31, 2006

but on galtin, he was damn good his freshmen year of college. he didnt make a vast improvement. just a steady rise to the top. he focuses on the 100m, isntead of 200m and 110H as he did before, because juicing makes the most improvement in the 100m of course.

i ran against those baylor guys plenty of times. its intimidating being in the same heat as anyone with those green and yellow speedsuites on.

ironone1 · Jul 31, 2006

latinking24 said:
but on galtin, he was damn good his freshmen year of college. he didnt make a vast improvement. just a steady rise to the top. he focuses on the 100m, isntead of 200m and 110H as he did before, because juicing makes the most improvement in the 100m of course.

i ran against those baylor guys plenty of times. its intimidating being in the same heat as anyone with those green and yellow speedsuites on.

Yeah there is a good chance that Michael Johnson was a big juicer but smart enough not to get caught. Anybody can just take them but to plan how to get around a drug test is a different story.

n4dmoney · Aug 1, 2006

Use suspension....right?

Vespa103 · Aug 1, 2006

If I am not mistaken Ben Johnson ran a 9.79 in 1988 thats 18 years ago Gaitlin ran a 9.77 and I believe Montgomery ran a 9.78. I believe Maurice Green and Carl Lewis alsso ran in that range not sure exact time. Maurice Green used to claim to have the most sub 10 second times and additionally is the only one of the listed above who has not failed a drug test. At his best BJ destroyed Carl.

I think BJ deserves the most credit for pushing the record .16 seconds in 4 years vs .04 in the preceding 30 year period. In the last 18 years 1988-2006 it has moved .02 seconds (9.79-9.77)and that is with performance enhancement

Given the subsequent drug failures of other WR holders I think BJ accomplishments need to be reevaluted its like saying Ronnie Coleman failed a drug test and giving the Medal to Jay Cutler. Gaitlin failed yes but anybody else under 10 is using something as well