Gaining muscle with 1500mg test and T3?

[Mancmuscle]

Was just wondering if anyone has had good muscle gains whilst taking T3?
I'm thinking of doing a 1500mg test only cycle and adding some T3 to help keep gains clean or maybe burn some fat. The more I read on this the more confused I'm getting as to if its a good idea or not.
Any answers would be appreciated and it would be great if any of you guys have ever done this before. Thanks

 

[ALLEX]

Keep your diet in check, use some AI and your gains will be fairly clean.

 

[Gunsmith]

you can make good gains on half that much test and NO T3 , the T3 speeds the metabolisim up as does the test.

If your diet is clean , in a slight calorie surplus and you are training hard then anybody can make gains on 500-600mg test

If you takeing test and getting fat then you are eating to much , if you are taking test and not making gains then you arnt eating enough.

T3 will not benifit you any more than cleaning up your diet

 

[Mancmuscle]

you can make good gains on half that much test and NO T3 , the T3 speeds the metabolisim up as does the test.

If your diet is clean , in a slight calorie surplus and you are training hard then anybody can make gains on 500-600mg test

If you takeing test and getting fat then you are eating to much , if you are taking test and not making gains then you arnt eating enough.

T3 will not benifit you any more than cleaning up your diet

Yes I know you can make good gains off 500-600 test, which I did for my first cycle of steroids two years ago. I have since done another two cycles with test/deca and test/tren. So now I would like to try a high dose of test because you can make some really good gains off it. Is that a problem or do you feel that is a stupid amount of test to be taking?
I've been reading up on T3 for a while now and some people have a theory that taking a small amount of T3 with a high dose of test can make your gains even better. So was hoping that someone on here had some experience with this.

 

[nothuman]

Yes I know you can make good gains off 500-600 test, which I did for my first cycle of steroids two years ago. I have since done another two cycles with test/deca and test/tren. So now I would like to try a high dose of test because you can make some really good gains off it. Is that a problem or do you feel that is a stupid amount of test to be taking?
I've been reading up on T3 for a while now and some people have a theory that taking a small amount of T3 with a high dose of test can make your gains even better. So was hoping that someone on here had some experience with this.

Only way to find out is to try it. Personally, I feel adding a tiny amount of T3 is only for "damage control" if your diet gets off track. It's not a good habit to fall into, but I am the first to admit I have used it for that very reason since I go out to eat quite a bit and often don't feel like ordering the healthy stuff on the menu. If you can avoid overdoing it with the calories, then you are better off without T3.

 

[pieguy]

Doesn't T3 increase PTOR (protein turn over rate), which with AAS, is tipped in your favor? Rea wrote something about it no?

 

[Mancmuscle]

Doesn't T3 increase PTOR (protein turn over rate), which with AAS, is tipped in your favor? Rea wrote something about it no?

Yeah that's what I've been reading but I can't seem to find anybody who has tried it. Do you know how I can find what Rea wrote about it?

 

[pieguy]

You have to do a google search for "building the perfect beast" by Arthur L Rea and somebody might have posted a PDF. I can tell you swiper, a pretty famous member at I think RX has been on high dose test and t3 for years. The guy is huge and lean.

He says bare essentials are high test, t3 and hgh for a massive lean physique all the time.

 

[Mancmuscle]

You have to do a google search for "building the perfect beast" by Arthur L Rea and somebody might have posted a PDF. I can tell you swiper, a pretty famous member at I think RX has been on high dose test and t3 for years. The guy is huge and lean.

He says bare essentials are high test, t3 and hgh for a massive lean physique all the time.

Thanks for that mate appreciate it, I'll look that up

 

[Mancmuscle]

If anybody else has info/experience with it please comment.

 

[Cito33189]

This is the worst Idea Ive ever hear (IMO)

I absolutely feel taking that much test is nuts.

If you do take that much (your gona do what your gna do) Your absolutely going to need a anti-e.

As far as T-3 why do you want to take that? What is your specific reason behind why you thought taking T3 would be a good idea. Im just curious.

I never touch it unless I was advised to by a diet coach. Other than that I wouldn't use it.

If your gonna blow through that much test might as well go all out and throw in some tren and winny

 

[pieguy]

This is the worst Idea Ive ever hear (IMO)

I absolutely feel taking that much test is nuts.

If you do take that much (your gona do what your gna do) Your absolutely going to need a anti-e.

As far as T-3 why do you want to take that? What is your specific reason behind why you thought taking T3 would be a good idea. Im just curious.

I never touch it unless I was advised to by a diet coach. Other than that I wouldn't use it.

If your gonna blow through that much test might as well go all out and throw in some tren and winny

Do you even know what you're talking about? 1500mg of test is a very reasonable cycle with low sides provided you're not gyno sensitive and you take an AI. Most people should probably just stick to pure test cycles instead of overcomplicating the shit out of their cycle. Why the hell would you bulk with winny anyway? Unless you like screwed up lipids and sore joints all the time.

And he just discussed his reasoning for the T3 and even requested factual information to support it, yet you ask why would you take T3? Did you just glance over the thread and decide to comment without reading any of it?

 

[Chipper Jones78]

I personally take 37.5 mcg of t3, however, only 200-400mg of test.

 

[Cito33189]

Do you even know what you're talking about? 1500mg of test is a very reasonable cycle with low sides provided you're not gyno sensitive and you take an AI. Most people should probably just stick to pure test cycles instead of overcomplicating the shit out of their cycle. Why the hell would you bulk with winny anyway? Unless you like screwed up lipids and sore joints all the time.

And he just discussed his reasoning for the T3 and even requested factual information to support it, yet you ask why would you take T3? Did you just glance over the thread and decide to comment without reading any of it?

First I didn't read anywhere He was bulking. If I Missed that MY FAULT.

I read somewhere he wanted good muscle gains. From my personal experience and with the nice weather coming taking a good amount of test with tren/ winny will give you GOOD MUSCLE GAINS.

If 1500mg's of test is reasonable then I need to get out of the game. I competed on NPC stage hired a well known coach on here and never went over a G so to say its REASONABLE. no its not.

Everyone has there opinion so im not right by any means but I value my opinion because its mine and because ive been around

 

[pieguy]

Some people do not like high dose test like adonis yet some gain fantastically from it. B-Boy, somebody who can actually say he is NPC Nats level just said in another thread that 2g of test only is a great long-term mass gaining cycle.

Every coach/guru has different recommendations. Some advise higher or lower amounts of gear depending on the person, their genetics and their current size. Just cause your coach didn't advise high test, doesn't mean it's a bad idea, it just means he didn't like it for your goals.

But to start a statement out with that is the worst idea i've ever heard is somewhat ignorant.

 

[Cito33189]

Want to talk about ignorant.

Your comparing B-Boy who has the physique of pro caliper to a kid who just said he did 2 cycles.

That's ignorant

 

[pieguy]

Wow. You honestly think B-Boy takes 1.5-2g of test only and calls it a day? Are you living in some fantasy or something? Do you know how much gear even some of the physique guys are taking?

 

[Cito33189]

Wow. You honestly think B-Boy takes 1.5-2g of test only and calls it a day? Are you living in some fantasy or something? Do you know how much gear even some of the physique guys are taking?

wtf are you talking about?

i'm done with this. If your advising someone who took 2 cycles to take 1500mgs. of test awesome

 

[pieguy]

He said he took a test only first cycle, took a test/deca cycle, and then took a test/tren cycle. Do you even read a post all the way through a post? Seriously? All he wanted to do was try something different which is a simple test only cycle and asked a T3 question.

 

[Xenorikki]

Just watch your BP if you have pharm or high quality test 1500 is quite a bit. First time I used 1g i just started by injecting 500 twice a week and that was only time my BP started to climb because I wasn't used to it and had switched from ugl to pharm lol.