gear is over rated during contest prep

abolish the weak · Jun 1, 2009

I def think its over rated when concering fat loss and show prep. Actually, I think too much shit can fuck you up and make it so you have to do twice as much cardio to keep the bloat off. I cannot believe the results I'm getting just from 400mg/wk prop, I'm bridging right now with it, and wont really start anything else until 6-8 wks out. But my fat loss is even better, and my physique is much harder. Anyone else find this true to a point?

Note; I'll be adding tren, masteron, and some winny at 6-8 wks out.

full_belly · Jun 1, 2009

totally agree,

its like when the supp companies started the "you must eat 6-7 times per day" to sell protein, its like that with pre contest supps. really for most people some test and one other compound will be more than enuff if you can control the water, some may need to drop the test, but seriously, if youve done EVERYTHING right in your prep, the fact you only used 2 compounds rather than 4 will NOT change shit imho

KillerStack · Jun 1, 2009

abolish the weak said:
Actually, I think too much shit can fuck you up and make it so you have to do twice as much cardio to keep the bloat off.

Well, cardio doesn't have much to do with bloat. And why is bloat a problem until the very end i.e. show day?

Wolfpack · Jun 1, 2009

If you really feel it's working that well, then why are you planning to add 3 more compounds?

b-boy · Jun 1, 2009

Wolfpack said:
If you really feel it's working that well, then why are you planning to add 3 more compounds?

LOL nate you were smart enough to see the sillyness in his statement...LOL

Mr.G · Jun 1, 2009

Add it to the rest of his threads...

abolish the weak · Jun 1, 2009

Wolfpack said:
If you really feel it's working that well, then why are you planning to add 3 more compounds?

I was referring to adding 3 more compounds at just 6 wks out, not running a bunch of compounds the entire prep. And compounds that dont retain much water at that. I didn't just come on here and make the shit up, I was just sharing my experience as opposed to past experiences getting ready for a show.

b-boy · Jun 1, 2009

Wolfpack said:
If you really feel it's working that well, then why are you planning to add 3 more compounds?

dayuuuum abolish you have no idea what nate is telling you do you? you started this thread and can't even comprehend its meaning, your thread is entitled one thing and then you go against the very thing you say! Nate (wolfpack) was DEAD ON with his comment (smart guy that nate

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xxsuprman22xx · Jun 1, 2009

b-boy said:
dayuuuum abolish you have no idea what nate is telling you do you? you started this thread and can't even comprehend its meaning, your thread is entitled one thing and then you go against the very thing you say! Nate (wolfpack) was DEAD ON with his comment (smart guy that nate )

yea bro i dont think he was being an ass. He was just making an observation, if this is working so well - why mess with it.

db006 · Jun 1, 2009

abolish the weak said:
I was referring to adding 3 more compounds at just 6 wks out, not running a bunch of compounds the entire prep. And compounds that dont retain much water at that. I didn't just come on here and make the shit up, I was just sharing my experience as opposed to past experiences getting ready for a show.

what are a bunch of compounds? a long ester test, some eq and maybe an oral?? doesnt seem that tough to manage

abolish the weak · Jun 1, 2009

Not sure why all the bashing here. Let me break it down in simpler terms, IN THE PAST I USED TO RUN A BUNCH OF DIFF COMPOUNDS FOR MY ENTIRE 12-15 WK CONTEST PREP. THIS TIME, I'M ONLY USING A LITTLE PROP AND NOT STARTING ANYTHING ELSE UNTIL THE LAST 6-8 WKS. And my results are better this time so far, than in the past(in terms of a harder appearance and less fluid retention). In the past I found I needed more cardio to keep the water weight off. I'm not here trying to advocate against gear usage or tell anyone what to do, I'm sharing what has worked well for me, point blank. Why all the haters? If you agree fine, if you disagree then thats fine too, but dont come on here and come off at me like I'm some sort of moron because I've posted something that has worked for me. Grow up

VTliftVT · Jun 1, 2009

abolish the weak said:
Not sure why all the bashing here. Let me break it down in simpler terms, IN THE PAST I USED TO RUN A BUNCH OF DIFF COMPOUNDS FOR MY ENTIRE 12-15 WK CONTEST PREP. THIS TIME, I'M ONLY USING A LITTLE PROP AND NOT STARTING ANYTHING ELSE UNTIL THE LAST 6-8 WKS. And my results are better this time so far, than in the past(in terms of a harder appearance and less fluid retention). In the past I found I needed more cardio to keep the water weight off. I'm not here trying to advocate against gear usage or tell anyone what to do, I'm sharing what has worked well for me, point blank. Why all the haters? If you agree fine, if you disagree then thats fine too, but dont come on here and come off at me like I'm some sort of moron because I've posted something that has worked for me. Grow up

Why would you do cardio to get the water off? I mean if you were literally just holding water and that wasn't fat (ie your leaner this time and not just fat) why not just hit the sauna once or twice a day? I am assuming that you were doing cardio to sweat...doesnt the sauna have the same impact? If you were doing cardio to lose weight (fat not water) then I understand...but your specifically stating water.

freaktt · Jun 1, 2009

To be that far out why worry about water....fat holds water.. Why try to look dry this far from show...

jawbreakerkid · Jun 1, 2009

abolish the weak said:
Not sure why all the bashing here. Let me break it down in simpler terms, IN THE PAST I USED TO RUN A BUNCH OF DIFF COMPOUNDS FOR MY ENTIRE 12-15 WK CONTEST PREP. THIS TIME, I'M ONLY USING A LITTLE PROP AND NOT STARTING ANYTHING ELSE UNTIL THE LAST 6-8 WKS. And my results are better this time so far, than in the past(in terms of a harder appearance and less fluid retention). In the past I found I needed more cardio to keep the water weight off. I'm not here trying to advocate against gear usage or tell anyone what to do, I'm sharing what has worked well for me, point blank. Why all the haters? If you agree fine, if you disagree then thats fine too, but dont come on here and come off at me like I'm some sort of moron because I've posted something that has worked for me. Grow up

This thread is like watching my dog chase its tail.

b-boy · Jun 1, 2009

abolish the weak said:
Not sure why all the bashing here. Let me break it down in simpler terms, IN THE PAST I USED TO RUN A BUNCH OF DIFF COMPOUNDS FOR MY ENTIRE 12-15 WK CONTEST PREP. THIS TIME, I'M ONLY USING A LITTLE PROP AND NOT STARTING ANYTHING ELSE UNTIL THE LAST 6-8 WKS. And my results are better this time so far, than in the past(in terms of a harder appearance and less fluid retention). In the past I found I needed more cardio to keep the water weight off. I'm not here trying to advocate against gear usage or tell anyone what to do, I'm sharing what has worked well for me, point blank. Why all the haters? If you agree fine, if you disagree then thats fine too, but dont come on here and come off at me like I'm some sort of moron because I've posted something that has worked for me. Grow up

1. I def. not a hater epecially at someone who is not on my level
2. im 37yrs old
3. post # 6 in this thread pretty much sums it all up

Mega Squat · Jun 1, 2009

It really depends on your AIs and compounds you run.

eroc613 · Jun 1, 2009

ATW, there are people on this board that think they are something they are not. And what is plain simple to everybody else, they can not see because they refuse to think they are wrong.
I for one will be a very humble person when my placing at shows keep falling every year. But some people can't put things in perspective.

phatkid77 · Jun 1, 2009

lol, i agree that less is better...back in 03 i relied on drugs and looked like shit

but your original post, in simplest terms

1. getting gr8 results on prop only
2. too many compounds can fuck u up!
3. things are gr8, why take more...but, BTW I'm adding, winny, masteron AND tren

you gotta see the humour here

phats

abolish the weak · Jun 2, 2009

phatkid77 said:
lol, i agree that less is better...back in 03 i relied on drugs and looked like shit

but your original post, in simplest terms

1. getting gr8 results on prop only
2. too many compounds can fuck u up!
3. things are gr8, why take more...but, BTW I'm adding, winny, masteron AND tren

you gotta see the humour here

phats

Looking back I def see the humor, but the point I was trying to make is I used to do about 3 or 4 compounds aside from cutting agents up until about 8 wks out. I just dont find it necessary anymore. Now of course the additions to my cycle as the show gets closer have their place, but I suppose my post didn't come off that way, LOL

B-Boy, if you have anything constructive to tell me or add to this thread I'm listening. But to come on here and say everyone of my posts is ridiculous? I'm not at your level? Come on bro. For the record, your not the only one who is 37 yrs old and National level, so why not get that legend out of your mind? Actually, 99% of people could give a shit

b-boy · Jun 2, 2009

abolish the weak said:
Looking back I def see the humor, but the point I was trying to make is I used to do about 3 or 4 compounds aside from cutting agents up until about 8 wks out. I just dont find it necessary anymore. Now of course the additions to my cycle as the show gets closer have their place, but I suppose my post didn't come off that way, LOL

B-Boy, if you have anything constructive to tell me or add to this thread I'm listening. But to come on here and say everyone of my posts is ridiculous? I'm not at your level? Come on bro. For the record, your not the only one who is 37 yrs old and National level, so why not get that legend out of your mind? Actually, 99% of people could give a shit

common bro, i just gave you common sense you said hating? YOU can not hate on someone that is not on your level!! and simply put you are not? just like im not on a lot of other peoples level! in my gym we got a saying that goes KNOW YOUR PLACE! I know my place bro simple as that, I have agreed with almost every placing i have gotten at a show, so how am i a legend??? common now, Im battling at the national level just like everyone else BUT you are not! you are not at that level so how in the fuck can i hate on you? thats just plain dumb for you to even say that...LOL some people on this board are really comical. if sam zona said something like that to me it would make perfect sense, but YOU....LOL holy shit.

you have to see the humor in your post, i was poking at you cause you didn't see the humor in it aka sillyness. nate did and i commended him on it thats all, don't get so worked up and def. don't think in your life in bodybuilding or physique terms that i could ever ever ever ever ever hate on you.. thats a joke in itself