Gf's post contest health issues and bloodwork (need advice)

[g.r.o.w.t.h.]

My gf is suffering from some serious post contest rebound issues. She had blood work done and obviously has some issues. I am looking for some advice on how to resolve/repair the issues. Anyway this is the story...

I met my girlfriend backstage at a show where we both competed in the summer of 2015. We began dating a few months later. Now when we started dating, she was much heavier than her competition weight. I'm talking 40 lbs heavier and she is 5'3". She was miserable with her weight gain. I asked her what had happened. Basically, she had a coach that dieted her on 800 calories with very little fat or carbs. She dieted like this for over 6 months. Immediately I figured she probably did some damage to her metabolism. She remained heavy for a few more months until we started prepping for two shows in 2016. I helped her with her prep this year. It was very difficult to pull weight off and we ended up with a low carb, moderate fat, high protein diet. 150g protein 30g carbs 50g fat per day with a re-feed once a week. Everything progressed slowly but she did make improvements. We decided to add T-3 at 25mcg a day and suddenly everything seemed to fall into place. Now we were already using 20mg var a day and 1.5iu gh but even that didn't seem to do much until we added in the t-3. She ended up looking great for her shows. She won her class in open figure in one and took 3rd in a stacked class of 12 in another.

Fast forward to post contest. We planned on reverse dieting, which we did to an extent. We tapered off all supplements. She immediately started gaining weight fast. I know what she was eating and it was far from perfect but wasn't bad either. She went back to a strict diet of 1300 calories. still gained weight. She ended up right back to where she started and became extremely depressed. 7 weeks post contest, we had blood work done. Her thyroid seems fucked. Now before anyone screams it was the T-3, she had the same problem the previous year and she was 100% natural then. She saw a Dr. who referred her to a specialist. The damn specialist cant see her until Jan 2017! I am attaching the blood work. Anyone with any advice please help!!! I cannot deal with my depressed, emotional train wreck gf anymore.. I need her to get this weight gain under control.

 

[Voxide]

The fact that you mention a semi-clean diet at a supposed deficit yet still weight gains makes me think it's indeed a thyroid issue. The cause? Could be anything really. The endo will probably prescribe Synthroid or something. In the meantime I'd pay extra close attention to the diet and training protocol. Her test levels are low even for a female, which I'm certain accounts for the moodiness.

Unrelated to the issue but I'd probably get those LDL values under control as well.

 

[little slice]

she's probably having takeout/snacks on top of the 1300 calories


I've noticed that a lot of gals tend to do this stuff



one fat girl told me that she "thought if no one saw her eat it, then it was like she didn't eat it".


...yeah....let that sink in for a moment.



sounds funny to us, but these sorts of delusions are not terribly uncommon.

 

[g.r.o.w.t.h.]

The fact that you mention a semi-clean diet at a supposed deficit yet still weight gains makes me think it's indeed a thyroid issue. The cause? Could be anything really. The endo will probably prescribe Synthroid or something. In the meantime I'd pay extra close attention to the diet and training protocol. Her test levels are low even for a female, which I'm certain accounts for the moodiness.

Unrelated to the issue but I'd probably get those LDL values under control as well.

I did not know what to think of the low test levels. Could coming off of var be the cause? As far as the LDL, we are addressing that with Citrus Bergamot.

 

[g.r.o.w.t.h.]

she's probably having takeout/snacks on top of the 1300 calories


I've noticed that a lot of gals tend to do this stuff



one fat girl told me that she "thought if no one saw her eat it, then it was like she didn't eat it".


...yeah....let that sink in for a moment.



sounds funny to us, but these sorts of delusions are not terribly uncommon.

No she isnt..... Did you even bother to read? She is a figure competitor, not some fat girl. She knows how to eat right. She weighs everything, counts calories etc. This isnt a matter of some fat chick eating donuts all day and wondering why she looks like humpty dumpty

 

[heavyhitter]

I did not know what to think of the low test levels. Could coming off of var be the cause? As far as the LDL, we are addressing that with Citrus Bergamot.

I owuld think var could cause that. Low test is becoming an increasing problem in women. More and more endos are starting to use extremely low dose trt in women now to adress libido and weight issues

 

[little slice]

No she isnt..... Did you even bother to read? She is a figure competitor, not some fat girl. She knows how to eat right. She weighs everything, counts calories etc. This isnt a matter of some fat chick eating donuts all day and wondering why she looks like humpty dumpty

you said she gained 40 pounds shortly after you started dating..


maybe she was a bit of a chubster, and then hardcore dieted it off, then rebounded?


I wasn't saying that she IS sneaking snacks, merely suggesting a possibility

 

[g.r.o.w.t.h.]

you said she gained 40 pounds shortly after you started dating..


maybe she was a bit of a chubster, and then hardcore dieted it off, then rebounded?


I wasn't saying that she IS sneaking snacks, merely suggesting a possibility

She wasnt a chubster prior to dieting for a few shows in 2015. In 2015 She had a coach that put her on a meal plan where she ate 800 calories with very low carbs and very low fat. She dieted like this for over 6 months. I think this is where the damage occurred. She did binge eat junk for 2 weeks post contest and gained 30 lbs in this time. Since then she has had a hell of a time getting weight to come off. Did you look at the blood work attached?

 

[little slice]

Did you look at the blood work attached?

can't open PDF's on this computer cause I got a virus trying to stream adventure time

 

[Voxide]

I did not know what to think of the low test levels. Could coming off of var be the cause?.

Assuming that she's relatively young and otherwise healthy, absolutely.

Make sure she's cooking with coconut oil and add in an omega 3 supp if they're not already being taken as well.

can't open PDF's on this computer cause I got a virus trying to stream adventure time

The T4 is slightly out of range on the low side with low test. That's pretty much it

 

[RamboStallone]

Where's TSH at?

 

[g.r.o.w.t.h.]

Where's TSH at?

2.4

 

[eaglecall]

In my opinion all the symptoms are related to a body low in nutrients. Of course with our current corrupt for profit medical system, if you take her to a doctor she will put on drugs (on top of the drugs she's been already using) drugs don't cure anything, they only treat symptoms. Underlying condition still there.

Her symtoms and numbers are a CHRONIC condition. And Allopathic doctor (MD) has no training nor knowledge to cure chronic diseases. Allopathic medicine inly treat symptoms through drugs/surgery. Thats it.

How much selenium is she consuming per day? Make sure her diet has plenty of veggies, ORGANIC NON GMO, make sure she stops eating gluten, eats good fats and cholesterol, avoid oils. Supplement (natural supplements, not anabolic steroids) with organic non gmo whole food vitamins, liquid colloidal trace minerals, amino acids, fatty acids, and extra organic selenium besides diet.

 

[tenny]

she's probably having takeout/snacks on top of the 1300 calories


I've noticed that a lot of gals tend to do this stuff



one fat girl told me that she "thought if no one saw her eat it, then it was like she didn't eat it".


...yeah....let that sink in for a moment.



sounds funny to us, but these sorts of delusions are not terribly uncommon.

yes sir.....we work with some women....and make them take and send
pics of every meal.......

and even this doesn't work.....

what does work is getting in cohoots with their significant other....like a little
spy....double agent....lol.....ahhhh i love it...

 

[pesty4077]

Stop with the up and down diets for 1 thing. Get on a regular balanced meal approach and eat that all year. Stop shoveling drugs in to compensate a bad Diet. You can not starve the body that long without some adverse effect. I see her T4 levels are low and test levels. I am not going to give any Doctor advice, but she should see him to address both things. The other stuff is very fixable. Get some cucurmin and citrus berganot, add a lot more fruits and veggies in her diet or get some super greens and reds. I think that will balance your cholesterol. Your liver get a good liver aid. Get off the orals.

 

[pesty4077]

yes sir.....we work with some women....and make them take and send
pics of every meal.......

and even this doesn't work.....

what does work is getting in cohoots with their significant other....like a little
spy....double agent....lol.....ahhhh i love it...

I am going through that with Austen. You did warn me about young guys. He comes back 1 week later 2 pounds heavier and tells me he is following my Diet. :naughty: I told him I know better, but he is back on track.

 

[tri-terror]

It's weird to me that her TSH is in range but her hormones are low... how long after she stopped t3 were these labs drawn?

The test drop could certainly be from the var as well as the cholesterol and liver values.

Her BUN being high is the most worrisome. What is her blood pressure like?

My 2 cents would be this:
she needs to get off any and all anabolics or other drugs for a good 6 to 8 weeks. During that time she should be getting daily cardio, like 30-45 min. LISS.
Along with that 3 or 4 days a week of weight training. Not too crazy high in volume but not quite HIT either. She should take health supps like liver aids and multi vitamin along with a balanced diet.

Get labs re-done at the end of this time period and re-assess.

 

[burst]

In my opinion all the symptoms are related to a body low in nutrients. Of course with our current corrupt for profit medical system, if you take her to a doctor she will put on drugs (on top of the drugs she's been already using) drugs don't cure anything, they only treat symptoms. Underlying condition still there.

Her symtoms and numbers are a CHRONIC condition. And Allopathic doctor (MD) has no training nor knowledge to cure chronic diseases. Allopathic medicine inly treat symptoms through drugs/surgery. Thats it.

How much selenium is she consuming per day? Make sure her diet has plenty of veggies, ORGANIC NON GMO, make sure she stops eating gluten, eats good fats and cholesterol, avoid oils. Supplement (natural supplements, not anabolic steroids) with organic non gmo whole food vitamins, liquid colloidal trace minerals, amino acids, fatty acids, and extra organic selenium besides diet.

why selenium?

 

[eaglecall]

why selenium?

Selenium deficiency has been proven to be related to thyroid disease. Not only that, selenium is EXTREMELY important and essential for health. It pays an important role in heart health, it has peculiar antioxidant properties working in synergy with antioxidants. Naturopathic doctors believe that Athletes who drop dead from sudden heart attack were severely deficient in selenium. Studies have shown that selenium can decrease development of breast cancer by 80% since breast cancer is NOT a "bad gene", but rather a mutated gene from multi generation malnutrition, reversible of course through nutrient therapy like the vast majority of chronic diseases.

 

[cheloz28]

^^^^^^
Selenium helps convert T4 into T3. Without selenium it gets converted to Reverse T3 which is useless.



I agree, get her off everything first and add more variety to her diet. Give it about 6-8 weeks and get more labs done.

Like someone already said if you go see a doc, he prescribe some unneeded thyroid meds, which would plummet her natural thyroid levels.

*I can't see the labs posted for some reason on my phone**

Make sure to Test for the following.

TSH
free T3
Free T4
Magnesium
B12
Zinc
Iodine
Selenium
Vit C & D

*low in Vit D, B12 & magnesium have been shown to cause depression **

I'm not a doctor of some sort, this is just from my experience as of lately.


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