gh ed. slin 1mo. igf 1mo

[ridge11]

I am going to be running 5iu of gh ed for as long as possible. I order to get the most out of it without using anabolics, I was gonna run 1 month of slin followed by 1 month of igf. I was going to continue this cycle for as long as I can afford it. Has anyone ever done this? Is it safe to do this?

 

[GoneForever]

I am going to be running 5iu of gh ed for as long as possible. I order to get the most out of it without using anabolics, I was gonna run 1 month of slin followed by 1 month of igf. I was going to continue this cycle for as long as I can afford it. Has anyone ever done this? Is it safe to do this?

If i were u I would just use the slin and igf 3days per week continuosly and every 6-8weeks take 3-4weeks off just the slin to prevent any problems. Use the igf and slin on your weaker bodypart days and make sure they are not 2days in a row. Use every other day or MWF

 

[ridge11]

I thought you weren't supposed to stay on igf for more than4-6 weeks? I was thinking of using the blast method with the slin and gh month then do daily doses with gh and igf.

 

[GoneForever]

I thought you weren't supposed to stay on igf for more than4-6 weeks? I was thinking of using the blast method with the slin and gh month then do daily doses with gh and igf.

I think its still a debate if staying on daily IGF will cause receptor saturation, but if your only using 3x per week, im sure thats adequate time and you could do this for very long periods. IMO save your $ on IGF and use more GH.

 

[T 47 LB]

THE CYCLE

Weeks 1- (20-30) – HGH – On 5/ off 2
Weeks 1-5, 11-15, (21-25)
• 2 – 3 IU’s - first thing in the morning on workout days – early afternoon on non-workout days
Weeks 6-10, 16-20, (26-30)
• 2 – 3 IU’s first thing in the morning
• 2 – 3 IU’s 1-2 p.m. or pre-workout (or IM post-workout with your insulin if preferred)
All HGH injected subQ into abdomen, obliques, fronts of the thighs, and upper triceps

Weeks 1-5, 11-15, (21-25) – Long R3 IGF-1 – Every day
80 – 100 mcg’s intramuscular
• post work out on workout days
• first thing in the morning on non-workout days

Weeks 6-10, 16-20, (26-30) – Humalog – Workout days only
• 8 – 12 IU’s immediately post workout, intramuscular

IMPORTANT / CRITICAL - Post Insulin Nutrient Routine
Immediately after Humalog injection – do the following in exacting fashion -
• Injection + 5 minutes – drink shake with 10g glutamine / 10g creatine / 7 grams of dextrose per IU of Insulin. (If you don’t wish to split the shakes, add the whey isolate described as well here for a single shake).
• Injection + 15 minutes – drink shake with 65g of whey isolate protein in water (skip if taken with above)
• Injection + 75 minutes – eat a protein / carb meal with 40-50g of protein, 40-50g of carbs, NO FATS (you may wish to add another 30g or so whey isolate protein drink with this meal if you have tore down sufficient muscle groups to utilize this without it being stored as fat)
(i.e. – two boneless, skinless chicken breasts baked or grilled, a serving of brown rice, sweet potatoes, or pasta, with green beans)
Avoid fats for 2-3 hours for Humalog IM, 3-4 hours for Humalog subQ, 4-5 hours for Humulin-R.
keep some glucose tablets or other simple carbs on hand (Orange Juice, Full sugar Coke, etc.) for the active window of your insulin. Hypo symptoms can and will hit hard and fast and you will have little time to react. This is the main danger of insulin use. . Lack of attention to detail in this area can end in a nice ambulance ride, a visit to the hospital or even a one-way trip to the morgue. Be ready and act smart. The price of stupidity is really, really high.

OPTIONAL Addition to above cycle

Weeks 1- (20-30) T3 or T4 - Every Day
one of the following –
• 12.5 mcgs - 25 mcgs T3 taken once each day
-or –
• 100 mcgs T4 taken once each day

 

[ridge11]

THE CYCLE

Weeks 1- (20-30) – HGH – On 5/ off 2
Weeks 1-5, 11-15, (21-25)
• 2 – 3 IU’s - first thing in the morning on workout days – early afternoon on non-workout days
Weeks 6-10, 16-20, (26-30)
• 2 – 3 IU’s first thing in the morning
• 2 – 3 IU’s 1-2 p.m. or pre-workout (or IM post-workout with your insulin if preferred)
All HGH injected subQ into abdomen, obliques, fronts of the thighs, and upper triceps

Weeks 1-5, 11-15, (21-25) – Long R3 IGF-1 – Every day
80 – 100 mcg’s intramuscular
• post work out on workout days
• first thing in the morning on non-workout days

Weeks 6-10, 16-20, (26-30) – Humalog – Workout days only
• 8 – 12 IU’s immediately post workout, intramuscular

IMPORTANT / CRITICAL - Post Insulin Nutrient Routine
Immediately after Humalog injection – do the following in exacting fashion -
• Injection + 5 minutes – drink shake with 10g glutamine / 10g creatine / 7 grams of dextrose per IU of Insulin. (If you don’t wish to split the shakes, add the whey isolate described as well here for a single shake).
• Injection + 15 minutes – drink shake with 65g of whey isolate protein in water (skip if taken with above)
• Injection + 75 minutes – eat a protein / carb meal with 40-50g of protein, 40-50g of carbs, NO FATS (you may wish to add another 30g or so whey isolate protein drink with this meal if you have tore down sufficient muscle groups to utilize this without it being stored as fat)
(i.e. – two boneless, skinless chicken breasts baked or grilled, a serving of brown rice, sweet potatoes, or pasta, with green beans)
Avoid fats for 2-3 hours for Humalog IM, 3-4 hours for Humalog subQ, 4-5 hours for Humulin-R.
keep some glucose tablets or other simple carbs on hand (Orange Juice, Full sugar Coke, etc.) for the active window of your insulin. Hypo symptoms can and will hit hard and fast and you will have little time to react. This is the main danger of insulin use. . Lack of attention to detail in this area can end in a nice ambulance ride, a visit to the hospital or even a one-way trip to the morgue. Be ready and act smart. The price of stupidity is really, really high.

OPTIONAL Addition to above cycle

Weeks 1- (20-30) T3 or T4 - Every Day
one of the following –
• 12.5 mcgs - 25 mcgs T3 taken once each day
-or –
• 100 mcgs T4 taken once each day

Thanks for a helpful reply
Can I get away with a lower dose of igf?
Should I do 6 week runs instead?
How important is the t3?

 

[T 47 LB]

Thanks for a helpful reply
Can I get away with a lower dose of igf?
Should I do 6 week runs instead?
How important is the t3?

Yes, 2 clicks on a 100iu slin pin = 40mcg IGF. you can start there then bump it to 60 or 80mcg. If this is your first time running IGF, start low and see how things go. T3 is huge to this cycle. Besides, for elevated IGF levels, GH and Slin need T3 present. Ramp your T3 up(taper).Start at 12.5mcg for 2 weeks then bump it up from there. 25mcg, then 62.5mcg tops. I never recommend higher than 75mcg. For the first two weeks on the T3, you will be getting what your body produces plus the exogenous, so no need to be higher than 12.5 at this time. Slin is extremely anabolic, but only because of the nutrient shuttling effects.
You can run it without GH. It is just more synergistic with GH. When you have an increase in GH, Slin, and T3, IGF-1 levels will sky rocket.

 

[Jrflex10er]

Who agrees with T 47 LB on this?

 

[pesty4077]

Who agrees with T 47 LB on this?

Well, he copied that from Basskiller's site.

 

[DatBtrue]

Who agrees with T 47 LB on this?

Oh my gawd! Thats THE magic formula.

Good call Pesty. Bass has always been a very likable guy. He use to have a bit of an eclectic mix of writings from various authors on his site covering all sorts of topics. Cool guy.

T 47 LB you need to reference your source next time you cut & paste instead of attempting to pass it off as your own thoughts.