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GH effects, and what is the optimal length of usage http://sciroxxonline.com/

Many HGH users incorporating Insulin (whether fast or long acting) along with the GH. The notion here stems from the GH effects on blood glucose levels - GH releases glucose from from storage (liver, muscles...) and increases blood serum glucose levels. Insulin counteract this effect and recudes glucose levels by diverting back glucose into the tissues. IGF1 (AKA insulin like growth factor) has an insuligenic effects.
Generally speaking I'm against usage of exogenous insulin (unless for special purposes), and highly advocating for IGF1 usage along with GH in order to potentiate the HGH effect, increasing metabolism efficiency, and enhancing insulin sensitivity,
(I will post more thorough thread later including scientific literature) but will try to simplify it hereinafter.... when you inject insulin you raise (obviously) the insulin serum levels .... high insulin levels reduces (along time) insulin sensitivity ....... this makes sense I'm sure ..... when using IGF1 the body requires to secrete less insulin, because IGF1 reduces glucose (and FFA) serum levels as it shuttles them into the tissues (mainly muscles).... less insulin -> higher insulin sensitivity along time -> better metabolism (and better anabolism). Some will be amazed by the effect of a low dosage of 30-40mcg of IGF1-LR3 along with GH recomp' processes
 
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Any recommendations to deal with the pins/needles and hand numbing (generally at night) when using even a low dose (2 iu) ?
 
Any recommendations to deal with the pins/needles and hand numbing (generally at night) when using even a low dose (2 iu) ?
- Try dividing the 2iu dosage to two even daily dosages, it may reduce sides

- Try to inject the GH in times you're more active (such as post PM training), then the numbness will be less pronounced
 
I have a buddy who does high dose but every other day, or every 3 days. Anyone have success with that?
 
I have a buddy who does high dose but every other day, or every 3 days. Anyone have success with that?
The older protocol (from 30-45 years ago) included daily injections - 5 days on and 2 days off (tptal of 5 injections per week), it was done mainly out of practicality reasons, as back than the GH was approved only for GH deficiency in diagnostic children with dwarfism, the kids had to come to a clinic in many cases to get an IM injection every day. Later protocols recommend on 2 daily injctions, 7 days per week (14 weekly injections), and proven clinically to be the most effective
 
Hereinafter are a couple of other scientific based data to support the unique synergistic effect of GH and IGF1
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9129466
------------conclusions -
GH and IGF-I combined further enhanced fat oxidation while reducing protein catabolism. Serum insulin concentrations were significantly increased by GH but decreased by IGF-I. GH significantly decreased serum total triiodothyronine concentrations and IGF-I significantly decreased serum corticosterone concentrations.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10571453
-----------results and conclusions
RESULTS:
Administration of IGF-I, but not GH, attenuates dexamethasone-induced protein catabolism and increases insulin sensitivity. Simultaneous treatment with GH and IGF-I additively increases the serum concentration of IGF-I, whole-body anabolism, and lipid oxidation. GH or IGF-I when given alone produces similar increases in the serum concentration of IGF-I. However, GH selectively increases skeletal muscle mass whereas IGF-I selectively attenuates the intestinal atrophy and abnormal intestinal ion transport induced by TPN. These tissue-selective anabolic effects of GH and IGF-I are associated with differential increases in protein synthesis in skeletal muscle and jejunum, respectively.
CONCLUSIONS:
Simultaneous treatment with GH and IGF-I may offer the greatest clinical efficacy because of improved nitrogen retention in association with enhanced lipid oxidation and stimulation of protein synthesis in multiple tissue types.
 
I believe David kalick suggests taking 2iu eod which prevents/reduces one from becoming insulin insensitive - diabetic. Anybody have experience with this protocol?
You do not need to worry about insulin sensitivity at 2ui brother. Even at 2iu everyday insulin insensitivity will be nonexistent. I feel that would work great for longevity.

 
Many HGH users incorporating Insulin (whether fast or long acting) along with the GH. The notion here stems from the GH effects on blood glucose levels – GH releases glucose from from storage (liver, muscles…) and increases blood serum glucose levels. Insulin counteract this effect and recudes glucose levels by diverting back glucose into the tissues. IGF1 (AKA insulin like growth factor) has an insuligenic effects.
Generally speaking I’m against usage of exogenous insulin (unless for special purposes), and highly advocating for IGF1 usage along with GH in order to potentiate the HGH effect, increasing metabolism efficiency, and enhancing insulin sensitivity,
(I will post more thorough thread later including scientific literature) but will try to simplify it hereinafter…. when you inject insulin you raise (obviously) the insulin serum levels …. high insulin levels reduces (along time) insulin sensitivity ……. this makes sense I’m sure ….. when using IGF1 the body requires to secrete less insulin, because IGF1 reduces glucose (and FFA) serum levels as it shuttles them into the tissues (mainly muscles)…. less insulin -> higher insulin sensitivity along time -> better metabolism (and better anabolism). Some will be amazed by the effect of a low dosage of 30-40mcg of IGF1-LR3 along with GH recomp’ processes
 
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I've been asked more then several times if IGF1 should be combined with GH, and why not to take it by itself or instead of GH usage ? I posted this elsewhere, and was adviced to post here as well to bring this to the attention of as many memers as possible.
In a nutshell the ideal solution is using GH in combination with IGF1-lr3 and/or IGF1-DES
It's true that the IGF1 is the mediator for most of the anabolic effect of the GH, but we must consider 2 things -
  1. The GH has some direct metabolic effect by itself, both in releasing glucose and fatty acid into the circulation, and by this raising metabolism and releasing available energy for anabolic demands, The GH has also a direct effect on nitrogen balance not through the IGF1 path
  2. The IGF1 itself has a direct suppressing effect on the endogenous GH release - so if u inject exogenous IGF you actually and directly suppress any GH present in the circulation
So the ideal solution is combining them both and by this keep optimal serum GH and IGF1 levels
 

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