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GH non responders

ironjedi

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is it possible that some people dont respond to HGH treatment? I know i have not been on long enought to know but how long do stay on before you know whether or not it is working? I have been on now for about four days, using HRT prescribed soma, at 4 IU's A day, injecting in stomach twice a day.
is this best place to inject?
 
So far, I've found that those who are 'none responders' are using fake or underdosed GH. I've used Jins before & got no results, to later find out they were damaged due to heat. I just used 18 soma kits & didn't respond at all at 10iu a day, which is unheard of. I then switched back to puri blue tops, & voila, GH side effects in a mere 2 days. If your GH is real, I'd say you will respond to some degree.
 
I would think if you are a human, who has grown from a child,

to an adult....then you are a gh responder. [So every single person would be a gh responder] My next guess would be the gh you have is damaged or not real.
 
ironjedi said:
is it possible that some people dont respond to HGH treatment? I know i have not been on long enought to know but how long do stay on before you know whether or not it is working? I have been on now for about four days, using HRT prescribed soma, at 4 IU's A day, injecting in stomach twice a day.
is this best place to inject?

no its highly recommended not to do the stomach,inside thighs sub or im in most muscule groupes.
I f you read most of the posts on gh m8 its a min of 4months (probably more) before you would see any kind of results and that really depends on what you are tying to get out of you gh,so what arev your goals?
best
joe
 
joelittle said:
no its highly recommended not to do the stomach,inside thighs sub or im in most muscule groupes.
I f you read most of the posts on gh m8 its a min of 4months (probably more) before you would see any kind of results and that really depends on what you are tying to get out of you gh,so what arev your goals?
best
joe

I think you're confusing GH with IGF. IGF shot subQ into the stomach will cause gut growth, not GH.
 
Correct, the intestines have a lot of IGF-1 receptors therefore it is not recommended to go Sub-Q with IGF in that area.

GH can be used either IM or Sub-Q.

Qwert said:
I think you're confusing GH with IGF. IGF shot subQ into the stomach will cause gut growth, not GH.
 
Qwert said:
I think you're confusing GH with IGF. IGF shot subQ into the stomach will cause gut growth, not GH.

no not at all m8 just quoting from the guys that sell the gh i use

WHERE TO INJECT: The most readily absorbed area is the inner thigh. This should be done subq. by pinching a small fold and injecting in the middle. I do not recommend the abdomen as the fat tends to slow absorption. GH can be injected anywhere subq.though.

**broken link removed**
like evrything on gh and igh seems to be a lot of debates in progress :)
best
joe
 
mixxin said:
Correct, the intestines have a lot of IGF-1 receptors therefore it is not recommended to go Sub-Q with IGF in that area.

GH can be used either IM or Sub-Q.
What does receptors in the gut have to do with not sticking the needle into the abdomen area?? cuz it will cause gut growth? Where do you guys come up with this stuff? IGF will be absorbed IM or Sub Q, it will then go into your blood stream and be distributed all over the body, each receptor will get their own share, not more and not less.
 
Putin said:
What does receptors in the gut have to do with not sticking the needle into the abdomen area?? cuz it will cause gut growth? Where do you guys come up with this stuff? IGF will be absorbed IM or Sub Q, it will then go into your blood stream and be distributed all over the body, each receptor will get their own share, not more and not less.

So your body evenly distributes it perfectly? Wouldn't that be nice.

I realize that it goes into the bloodstream but I think it bonds to the receptors on more of a 1st come 1st serve basis. So if you shoot it into your shoulder it is naturally going to hit some of those receptors first. Then the remainder will go into the bloodstream and end up where it ends up. The human body has over 60,000 miles of blood vessels so some of your IGF will never even find a receptor at all and will eventually become inactivated.

I don't deny that I could be wrong because no one knows for sure. On that note I also know that you can't know what you said to be correct. If you did then you would have to done the research and written a medical paper. This medical paper would then be published by a medical journal. Then at that point all of us on this board could google the findings and realize the error of our ways.
 
mojo jojo said:
So your body evenly distributes it perfectly? Wouldn't that be nice.

I realize that it goes into the bloodstream but I think it bonds to the receptors on more of a 1st come 1st serve basis. So if you shoot it into your shoulder it is naturally going to hit some of those receptors first. Then the remainder will go into the bloodstream and end up where it ends up. The human body has over 60,000 miles of blood vessels so some of your IGF will never even find a receptor at all and will eventually become inactivated.

I don't deny that I could be wrong because no one knows for sure. On that note I also know that you can't know what you said to be correct. If you did then you would have to done the research and written a medical paper. This medical paper would then be published by a medical journal. Then at that point all of us on this board could google the findings and realize the error of our ways.
Just like HGH, AAS, IGF, all are injected and are then absorbed into the bloodstream so that it can get to the receptor thru that pathway. 1st come first server basis doesnt mean one receptor will get more than the other, it will just get there a minute earlier than to other sites. That means nothing. IMO
 
It is a fact that there is a very high concentration of IGF-1 receptors in the intestinal tract. Chances are high that when injecting in that proximity, the exogenous IGF-1 attaches itself to the lining of the large intestine/inner wall of the abdominal and can cause atrophy of the gut. At low dosages you may be fine, but why chance it. You are welcome to inject Sub-Q :)



Putin said:
Just like HGH, AAS, IGF, all are injected and are then absorbed into the bloodstream so that it can get to the receptor thru that pathway. 1st come first server basis doesnt mean one receptor will get more than the other, it will just get there a minute earlier than to other sites. That means nothing. IMO
 
JETHRO TULL said:
to an adult....then you are a gh responder. [So every single person would be a gh responder] My next guess would be the gh you have is damaged or not real.


Well said JT!!
 
mojo jojo said:
So your body evenly distributes it perfectly? Wouldn't that be nice.

I realize that it goes into the bloodstream but I think it bonds to the receptors on more of a 1st come 1st serve basis. So if you shoot it into your shoulder it is naturally going to hit some of those receptors first. Then the remainder will go into the bloodstream and end up where it ends up. The human body has over 60,000 miles of blood vessels so some of your IGF will never even find a receptor at all and will eventually become inactivated.

I don't deny that I could be wrong because no one knows for sure. On that note I also know that you can't know what you said to be correct. If you did then you would have to done the research and written a medical paper. This medical paper would then be published by a medical journal. Then at that point all of us on this board could google the findings and realize the error of our ways.

If your theory was true, wouldnt we see localized growth from steroid suspensions? However we do not (apart from inflammation which is not REAL growth), so unfortunately what you say doesnt work in practice.
 
vadim_b1 said:
If your theory was true, wouldnt we see localized growth from steroid suspensions? However we do not (apart from inflammation which is not REAL growth), so unfortunately what you say doesnt work in practice.
It would be like saying " if you inject AAS close to your prostate, it will go there first and it will enlarge, since the prostate has a lot of androgen receptors (like intestines have lots of IGF receptors)." It just doesnt work like that.
Even Vadim is right, he like me sees the light. :D
 

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