gh / slin timing - beating the dead horse

[Love_to_Bodybuild]

I've read numberous things like GH peaks 3 to 4 after after injecting

If I'm not resistance training, or have to wait untill in later in the day, 1.5 it's GH first thing upon awaking, right before cardio

If I am resistance training 1.5 ius GH right before gym and depending on which bodypart I'm training and how much time I have 5-10 ius r , right before gym, as in five minutes or less before I start warming up

 

[juggy38]

I hear you, I used Novolin R in the past as well. I think it depends on a lot of things, I'm not spending 2 hours in the gym these days so I figure, I take immediately before I start my workout, have my intra shake with me with 100g, 1 hour workout, get back home and immediately have my post shake with the rest of the carbs and it will still be within the window of the Humalog being active. The onset of the peak is much faster with Humalog but IIRC it's still in your system for a few hrs.

Oh if your having that many intra carbs your fine.

Me…being endo…it doesn’t take much insulin or carbs to drive growth. I look at an apple and BAM! Insulin spike.

So my usual protocol is 3-4iu growth, 5iu humulin-R pre workout.

Intra is 20G EAA, 5G creatine and around 30-40g carbs. Then pwo, kinda depends on the day and body part, and how much food I need to keep a normal BG range. Usually another 30-50g carbs.

I utilize insulin more on recomp and diets to preserve lean tissue. My fat ass needs zero extra insulin in a hyper caloric state to grow lol

But I do want to try lantus sometime when I’m very lean transitioning to a growth phase. I just don’t know the dose to start

 

[epoxy]

Oh if your having that many intra carbs your fine.

Me…being endo…it doesn’t take much insulin or carbs to drive growth. I look at an apple and BAM! Insulin spike.

So my usual protocol is 3-4iu growth, 5iu humulin-R pre workout.

Intra is 20G EAA, 5G creatine and around 30-40g carbs. Then pwo, kinda depends on the day and body part, and how much food I need to keep a normal BG range. Usually another 30-50g carbs.

I utilize insulin more on recomp and diets to preserve lean tissue. My fat ass needs zero extra insulin in a hyper caloric state to grow lol

But I do want to try lantus sometime when I’m very lean transitioning to a growth phase. I just don’t know the dose to start

i've heard anything less than 50iu is pretty useless for growth. if you know you can survive just fin on 5iu humilin id say youll be fine to start at 30-40 lantus and work your way up.

20g EAA, wow. i think my EAA's are like 5.7g per scoop, thats alotta EAA's. Not sure what the "standard" is.

 

[epoxy]

So i've used Novolin-R in the past which was in a vial - I just got some Humalog 3mL (100iu per mL) - they are in cartridge form. Is it ok to use syringes to draw from the cartridges? Wasn't sure if continued use of the cartridge (poking a bunch of needles into it) would degrade it or mess it up since it's not a "normal" multi use vial. I only ask cuz i don't have an insulin pen and would rather not have to buy one + a different form of needles cuz I already have plenty of regular slin pins.