Going from natural at 37, to Sub-Q low dose AAS with peptides

[boxer cam]

No , you should not regret, that how you find out if you have good genetic. Can you post a photo, I would like to see how much muscle did you gain naturally.

I haven't got photos from my max and at the moment I'm down on size. It's coming back, but slower than my last hard push a few years ago and with a lot more soreness. Will post some up over the next 4-6 weeks before starting testosterone or GHRP.

At the moment my arms are just breaking the 16", but have got to 17.5" natural in my 20's. Honestly don't think there was anything more at the time to gain.

 

[boxer cam]

When I started in the gym it was just shakes of milk, bananas and raw eggs. Still love them.

After a couple years I started creatine and due to that being the mid to late 90's, that meant no caffeine. Hardly ever drink it to this day, just don't like it. Although I'm sure some of the workout drinks I had contained caffeine. It's all BS anyway.

Over the years I've used protein powders, but prefer food. Food tastes better and is more natural. That few years ago I took most of the so called natural supplements I could and that helped and about to do that again before starting a cycle.

 

[j2048b]

Im sorry man i got about the same specs as u, and if u have studied aas since u were 17??? Ud know to NOT start a first cycle anywhere close to what u said u were going to do! Point blank fact!!

First cycle should always be test only, see how ur body responds! Some stay on test only......

Start with ur bpc for ir injuries, and by gawd! Do test only..... And once uve done that then add 1 compound per cycle to see how u respond...., just my .02, but i do believe a lot will agree with me here.....


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[boxer cam]

Im sorry man i got about the same specs as u, and if u have studied aas since u were 17??? Ud know to NOT start a first cycle anywhere close to what u said u were going to do! Point blank fact!!

First cycle should always be test only, see how ur body responds! Some stay on test only......

Start with ur bpc for ir injuries, and by gawd! Do test only..... And once uve done that then add 1 compound per cycle to see how u respond...., just my .02, but i do believe a lot will agree with me here.....


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Thanks for your advice, it's worth more than just cents.
I assure you I have read about AAS, slin and HGH on and off for 2 decades and known dozens of friends at gyms that have taken gear. It was chasing synergy at low doses, that made me over complicate it for a first cycle.

 

[orozco]

So I'm buying up supplies and about to get blood test to make the switch from natural. It's not for stage, so not worth going big amounts of gear. But I want to get bigger than I can naturally at my age. I've got a bad back and knees, so peptides are something I want to try for healing and to lean up.

With the AAS side of things I want to keep it mild and have read threads about low dose Sub-Q regular shots and think its a great approach for me, not afraid of needles. I'm willing to up the test and take a AI, if things don't feel right or second round of blood test show something. I will post up first blood tests before starting. Also willing to take the Test from 6 days a week to 7, but would prefer one day without injections and hopefully the HCG keeps my natural production up to avoid a crash on the off day. Probably 6-8 weeks before I can start.

Currently 37 5' 10" 205lb 16%
Body fat is dropping and will be about 10-12% when starting cycle.
 
-10 mg Test suspension @ Monday to Saturday, 30 mins pre WO. (weeks 1-30)  
-150 iu HCG @ AM on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. (weeks 1-30)  
- 60 mcg GHRP-6 @ AM, pre WO and PM on Monday to Saturday. (weeks 3-10)  
- 200 mcg BPC 157 @ AM, Monday to Saturday. (weeks 5-8)  
-10 mg Tren suspension @ Monday to Saturday, 30 mins pre WO. (weeks 7-21)  
- 10 mg MK-677 cap @ Monday to Saturday, pre bed. (weeks 11-20)  
- 100 mcg Peg-MGF @ 45 mins post WO on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. (weeks 13-18)  
- 50 mcg IGF-1 LR3 @ 2 hours post WO on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. (weeks 13-18)  
- 200 mcg BPC 157 @ AM, Monday to Saturday. (weeks 19-22)  
- 60 mcg GHRP-6 @ AM, pre WO and PM on Monday to Saturday. (weeks 21-28)  
- 50 mcg CJC-1295 No Dac @ AM, pre WO and PM on Monday to Saturday. (weeks 21-28)      

Gym 6 days a week, Sunday is rest day from gym, AAS and peptides.    

Required goodies

2 x 100mg/ml Test suspension (10ml)
3 x 5000iu HCG 1 x 100mg/ml Tren suspension (10ml)
1 x 10mg MK-677 caps (bottle of 60)
4 x GHRP-6 (5mg)
1 x IGF-1 LR3 (1mg)
1 x Peg-MGF (2mg)
2 x BPC 157 (5mg)
4 x CJC-1295 No Dac (2mg)

The test and hcg are the only things that run the whole way, for GH it swaps between GHRP to MK-677 to GHRP/CJC no dac, so I can see the difference.

Looking for opinions from you guys with all the knowledge? Thanks.

Hey bro, thay is to much. Keep things simple. One androgenic and one anabolic . Trust me... u will get better results. Don't relay on to much chemicals...

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[boxer cam]

Decided I'm going to run natural for another 3 month minimum, maybe up to 6 months. Might do the BPC 157 in that time, if I hit the wall with my knee pain.

Reason I'm waiting is I have been lazy on my food intake, only just got back into meal prep for more regular intake. Also I keep skipping workouts and not drinking enough water per day.

Still going to get bloods done to make sure I'm not wasting my time with low levels.