I’m about the same age. Came off everything. It’s been a year. I did NOT bounce back this time and m sure it’s not going to happen. I feel lifeless. Injuries hurt everywhere. Injuries stopped me from training and I lost he drive for the first time in my life. No appetite. Iv lost So much muscle at this point. I Haven’t had a hard or for 8 months or even really though about girls at all. Tell your buddy to expect all this. It’s no fun. But the good thing is I can fix it. As soon as I change my job I’ll be resetting myself with some testosterone and hgh. And a host of other things as well lol
Several reasons. But primarily Iv always come of gear completely for the same amount of time Iv been on. Often longer. Just for health purposes. Iv abused steroids. I don’t sugarcoat that. I felt my body telling me I just needed a break from all of it. Now my body is telling me this is the best im going to be naturally and mentally I was healthier on hrt. and the break has been long enough.
No doctor scripted but cycles here and there to.Is your friend self medicating? What were his test results pre TRT and where are they now.
AgreedAbusing steroids is harmful to health but so is being at 200 total test with uncontrolled estrogen. There is an in between!! TRT keeping bloods within normal ranges.
Cinder, your friend is delusional thinking he will be "normal" if he just comes off. Ask him how man 50 y/o men have a good, healthy level of test, say 700-1000? None of them! Then add is he has altered his natural HPTA axis by having taken steroids? This is why people should seek a licensed professional instead of trying to burden their brains with "thinking" or asking Dr. Google.
He probably very very very quick change his mind. It is always like people say I don't feel. It or this is not working until coming off and then they say - now I know it was great. At his age he probably will be very disappointed. It is very easy take something for granted but once you realise benefits you lost then you think twice.
Abusing steroids is harmful to health but so is being at 200 total test with uncontrolled estrogen. There is an in between!! TRT keeping bloods within normal ranges.
Cinder, your friend is delusional thinking he will be "normal" if he just comes off. Ask him how man 50 y/o men have a good, healthy level of test, say 700-1000? None of them! Then add is he has altered his natural HPTA axis by having taken steroids? This is why people should seek a licensed professional instead of trying to burden their brains with "thinking" or asking Dr. Google.
Just curious, what age did you start using AAS and did you cycle of pretty much blast and cruise?Umm why? Isn’t it known low test is not so healthy?
I know everyone likes to think we’re all different little snowflakes, but I think in general, if a person has been on TRT for a while it’s going to be very hard to bounce levels back, if at all with the exception of some outliers (not speaking of fertility, you can have low test and be fertile).. I tried to do so about a year and change ago, and I’m almost 30 and after the better part of a year, my test levels didn’t budge.. Never again, I felt absolutely horrible, I literally felt like I was 80 years old, zero sex drive, pains and aches everywhere, tired as hell all the time.. No thanks..
Anyway, besides my little story there, I’m sure people will mention high dose HCG and Clomid and Nolva etc to get things going.... I personally think it will be a waste of time and money.. That’s my input lol
Just curious, what age did you start using AAS and did you cycle of pretty much blast and cruise?
Yeah it sucks going off especially if you never snap back. I started in my late 20s so my HPTA had imprinted more than a young teenage guy. Plus I cycled religiously. still it took me a long time to recover back in my late 30s when I gave the shit up for 10 years.I started at a young and impressionable 18 years old, freshly 18 at that... Back when the internet was full of; “Do some PCT and you’ll keep your gains” and “Where are the bodies? AAS doesn’t effect health negatively, doctors don’t know shit” and “Bro all you need is a cycle to bulk and get big and then a cycle to cut and you’re good” etc lol
I did come off for periods of time from 18 til about 21-22... That’s about the time I was hypnotized even more by the internet retard of GH15... That’s when I started just “cruising” with Test in between but lucky for me I was partying and so inconsistent in my early 20’s that I didn’t do crazy doses or too much Tren for more than a week or 2 straight then I’d miss shots and just scrap a cycle and just do a cc of Test a week.. I haven’t touched anything harsh since i was about 22-23, but been on Test ever since until 28 when I tried to come off for 8 months and that was hell.. Been on real scripted TRT for about 6 months now, I’ll never come off again if it means feeling how I did those 8 months...