Goldline Log - Test-E/Primo-E/Mast-E/Pheraplex LEAN MASS CYCLE

[epoxy]

Started GW today @ 15mg. Figured that was a good starting spot, makes my bottle last 40 days. Cialis started @ 6mg as well.

Today will be an active recovery day which will be once per week, ab and cardio session. Trying to do my best to work on lower 2 abs so they are more visible, right now takes a pretty hard flex to see those lower ones.

 

[Musclemechanic76]

Started GW today @ 15mg. Figured that was a good starting spot, makes my bottle last 40 days. Cialis started @ 6mg as well.



Today will be an active recovery day which will be once per week, ab and cardio session. Trying to do my best to work on lower 2 abs so they are more visible, right now takes a pretty hard flex to see those lower ones.

Just started GW myself again think mine are 15 or 20mg caps can't remember I take 1 a day. For whatever reason I sleep better if i take in morning prolly in my head.

Keep us updated on all. This will be great log!! Thanks

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[epoxy]

Just started GW myself again think mine are 15 or 20mg caps can't remember I take 1 a day. For whatever reason I sleep better if i take in morning prolly in my head.

Keep us updated on all. This will be great log!! Thanks

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Of course - will do. Also I saw over at ANASCI the Primo-E is being lab tested along with Trest, Shredz, and the Sust 250. Will look forward to seeing those results!

 

[Musclemechanic76]

Of course - will do. Also I saw over at ANASCI the Primo-E is being lab tested along with Trest, Shredz, and the Sust 250. Will look forward to seeing those results!

Awesome on test.... I am confident they will be dead on or 4% over.... better safe than sorry!!!
On some places tested underdosed but not by much.... that small % can stay behind in filter depending on route used... So calculated amounts for what stays behind per amount filtered at a time and % more added to compensate important. Goldline promising to say least, Primo ace taken off market by Bayer for pip, switch with the E. Goldline primo ace at 100mg.... I have been called a mutant to be able to pin it. Lol!! It's been lowered because of complaints and GoldLine replaced with primo e to alot of guys!! A disclaimer of know your hormones and esters could of been used.. lol!! But he tested before I don't think many guys used real 100mg primo ace before....
Lol!! It gives me bite at 75-100mg but love primo ace and tolerate it well!!

Sorry to get off subject but the test, I had to comment.

Gw forget to take in am, I used some mk677 12.5mg I had laying around and helped me sleep last night. My I am on tren atm though so anything triggers insomnia.. Will take the mk677 again tonight. Lol!! With benadryl and my meds.

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[epoxy]

Awesome on test.... I am confident they will be dead on or 4% over.... better safe than sorry!!!
On some places tested underdosed but not by much.... that small % can stay behind in filter depending on route used... So calculated amounts for what stays behind per amount filtered at a time and % more added to compensate important. Goldline promising to say least, Primo ace taken off market by Bayer for pip, switch with the E. Goldline primo ace at 100mg.... I have been called a mutant to be able to pin it. Lol!! It's been lowered because of complaints and GoldLine replaced with primo e to alot of guys!! A disclaimer of know your hormones and esters could of been used.. lol!! But he tested before I don't think many guys used real 100mg primo ace before....
Lol!! It gives me bite at 75-100mg but love primo ace and tolerate it well!!

Sorry to get off subject but the test, I had to comment.

Gw forget to take in am, I used some mk677 12.5mg I had laying around and helped me sleep last night. My I am on tren atm though so anything triggers insomnia.. Will take the mk677 again tonight. Lol!! With benadryl and my meds.

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I've used MK in the past alongside GH, was doing AM GH dosing and night time MK dosing. Honestly the MK just made me so tired even when I took it at night. Could never take a full 25mg dose always had to do 12.5mg max or I would be sleeping through work, workouts, etc.

As far as the tests - yeah I'm sure they'll be great I look forward to seeing results.

I pinned again yesterday, 400mg Primo-E/250mg Test-E (3mL) in right glute, no pip or swelling this morning - 1.5mL (300mg) of Mast-E in my lat, no swelling or pip there either. Yesterday did abs and a 30 minute LISS session on the treadmill, today will be back in on my normal routine.

I had some serious shoulder pain last night, hoping it doesn't affect my workout too much today. Had the baby laying right on it, he fell asleep there for an hour. Only weighs 12lbs but after an hour I could barely lift my arm over my head, shoulder was completely dead. Took like 10 minutes of stretching to get it moving again.

 

[Musclemechanic76]

I've used MK in the past alongside GH, was doing AM GH dosing and night time MK dosing. Honestly the MK just made me so tired even when I took it at night. Could never take a full 25mg dose always had to do 12.5mg max or I would be sleeping through work, workouts, etc.



As far as the tests - yeah I'm sure they'll be great I look forward to seeing results.



I pinned again yesterday, 400mg Primo-E/250mg Test-E (3mL) in right glute, no pip or swelling this morning - 1.5mL (300mg) of Mast-E in my lat, no swelling or pip there either. Yesterday did abs and a 30 minute LISS session on the treadmill, today will be back in on my normal routine.



I had some serious shoulder pain last night, hoping it doesn't affect my workout too much today. Had the baby laying right on it, he fell asleep there for an hour. Only weighs 12lbs but after an hour I could barely lift my arm over my head, shoulder was completely dead. Took like 10 minutes of stretching to get it moving again.

I sleep on back or in recliner. Shoulder relieve put neck into traction with device it helps seperate joint and tension relief.
Also I use strap stretch things and hold tension pulling frim rear. Also ped deck adjusted to hold seperation with light weight but I use just to hold tension and stretch, getting space between joint without strain does wonders.

I am in mid 40s diesel mechanic body goes thru Hell, I stopped benching flat, I don't db bench, on flat bench I use Smith and don't go down to chest once at 8 rep or less max range.

I lay on flat bench with only bar and touch chest hold there and lean as much as possible one side to next with bar to stretch!!

Also find pain areas and rub butter knife flat side along connective tissues away from shoulder. Grayson Tech I think I mimic at home..

Excuse my post I am driving thru a yard 100 acre site

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[epoxy]

So unfortunately (although it's probably for the better in the long run) it looks like I'm going to go get myself an MRI after all on this right shoulder. I did my normal rotator cuff warm ups per usual but I could tell something was off. Once I started my warm up sets of incline bench, I couldn't go beyond 1 plate without a LOT of pain in my shoulder. I ended up just doing very high volume rest pause sets at 1 plate and moving on with my workout. Unfortunately it threw me off a little so the intensity wasn't as high as normal but I finished and didn't really have any other issues throughout the workout. It's literally just the push movement in a bench press that is causing the strain. I went on to do 405 rack pulls, dips, and the rest of my workout without feeling like I should back off or do less. I'm definitely noticing some vascularity today. I've been told Pheraplex has a week or so kick in time and today makes 7 days so I'm hoping things will continue to get even better over the next few workouts. Everything is steadily moving, no negative sides to speak of at all which is great but also a little weird, usually I notice something shitty happening (tren aggression, superdrol bp headaches, prostate enlargement and frequent urination) - but i have my supps already laid out, day 2 of the Cialis and GW. Hoping to just see steady lean gains, more and more vascularity, fat loss, and feel good the whole way since I'm not using any of the AAS that usually cause problems for me.

 

[Musclemechanic76]

So unfortunately (although it's probably for the better in the long run) it looks like I'm going to go get myself an MRI after all on this right shoulder. I did my normal rotator cuff warm ups per usual but I could tell something was off. Once I started my warm up sets of incline bench, I couldn't go beyond 1 plate without a LOT of pain in my shoulder. I ended up just doing very high volume rest pause sets at 1 plate and moving on with my workout. Unfortunately it threw me off a little so the intensity wasn't as high as normal but I finished and didn't really have any other issues throughout the workout. It's literally just the push movement in a bench press that is causing the strain. I went on to do 405 rack pulls, dips, and the rest of my workout without feeling like I should back off or do less. I'm definitely noticing some vascularity today. I've been told Pheraplex has a week or so kick in time and today makes 7 days so I'm hoping things will continue to get even better over the next few workouts. Everything is steadily moving, no negative sides to speak of at all which is great but also a little weird, usually I notice something shitty happening (tren aggression, superdrol bp headaches, prostate enlargement and frequent urination) - but i have my supps already laid out, day 2 of the Cialis and GW. Hoping to just see steady lean gains, more and more vascularity, fat loss, and feel good the whole way since I'm not using any of the AAS that usually cause problems for me.

Phera caused me calve pumps walking only side I felt.
I had an impendgement in my shoulder years ago.... I couldn't do bench. Except inclined plate loaded per side machine thing. No side raises limited my moments got thru it, 16 weeks I think. Crazy thing is I switched to cut stack and it cleared up. Always wondered.
MRI I avoided didn't do because my job I couldn't have surgery.....
I would extend like into cabinet the worst pain suddenly and when moving back down a pop and relief.
I did do that Graston technique at chiropractor and it helped. That is what I was trying to say.

I have some tb 500 and BCP 157 I will use in injuries soon. Already on hgh 3.3iu a day, I use IGF time to time, I have healed alot since then and careful since.

It may pass surgery takes years to recover, it was explained to me Solf tissue takes years to heal and mature strong. Only thing that speeds up are peptides and hgh etc...

Anyways sometimes old injuries heal in solf tissue with like a skin tag type tit on them. In joint areas they can impindge with inflammation in or around joint and cause.... like what I believe I had and Graston tech gave relief after sometime.

Was driving around on location again. Lol!! Hard to put words together. Keep faith, just avoid what hurts but stretch and massage Dr Sholles thing we have. Lidocaine cream helps pain.

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[epoxy]

Phera caused me calve pumps walking only side I felt.
I had an impendgement in my shoulder years ago.... I couldn't do bench. Except inclined plate loaded per side machine thing. No side raises limited my moments got thru it, 16 weeks I think. Crazy thing is I switched to cut stack and it cleared up. Always wondered.
MRI I avoided didn't do because my job I couldn't have surgery.....
I would extend like into cabinet the worst pain suddenly and when moving back down a pop and relief.
I did do that Graston technique at chiropractor and it helped. That is what I was trying to say.

I have some tb 500 and BCP 157 I will use in injuries soon. Already on hgh 3.3iu a day, I use IGF time to time, I have healed alot since then and careful since.

It may pass surgery takes years to recover, it was explained to me Solf tissue takes years to heal and mature strong. Only thing that speeds up are peptides and hgh etc...

Anyways sometimes old injuries heal in solf tissue with like a skin tag type tit on them. In joint areas they can impindge with inflammation in or around joint and cause.... like what I believe I had and Graston tech gave relief after sometime.

Was driving around on location again. Lol!! Hard to put words together. Keep faith, just avoid what hurts but stretch and massage Dr Sholles thing we have. Lidocaine cream helps pain.

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Lol oh the calf pumps are from the Phera? I thought maybe it was because i had been doing a lot of cardio on DNP before and not a lot of calf work the last few weeks but yes dude they are wicked. i actually skipped calves the other day because i went to go for the first set and immediately got charlie horses in BOTH fucking legs at the same time. i thought i was gonna have to sit down at the gym.

i will look into this Graston technique

 

[Musclemechanic76]

Lol oh the calf pumps are from the Phera? I thought maybe it was because i had been doing a lot of cardio on DNP before and not a lot of calf work the last few weeks but yes dude they are wicked. i actually skipped calves the other day because i went to go for the first set and immediately got charlie horses in BOTH fucking legs at the same time. i thought i was gonna have to sit down at the gym.



i will look into this Graston technique

Yep calves pump walking and hurt... took phera 2x this year and same.
I upped potasium and added some dam what it's called atp lactic acid remover... D-Robose

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[epoxy]

Yep calves pump walking and hurt... took phera 2x this year and same.
I upped potasium and added some dam what it's called atp lactic acid remover... D-Robose

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yeah i woke up last night to pee like 4 times so i dont know if DHT is kicking in, started the Cialis a couple days ago so hopefully that helps so my prostate doesnt get enlarged, i hate waking up to go to the bathroom often. could just be shedding water weight from masteron etc as well, prostate doesnt feel enlarged or anything weird.

also woke up with my calves about to get charlie horses in both. need to go work it out at the gym.

 

[Musclemechanic76]

yeah i woke up last night to pee like 4 times so i dont know if DHT is kicking in, started the Cialis a couple days ago so hopefully that helps so my prostate doesnt get enlarged, i hate waking up to go to the bathroom often. could just be shedding water weight from masteron etc as well, prostate doesnt feel enlarged or anything weird.



also woke up with my calves about to get charlie horses in both. need to go work it out at the gym.

Phera at 15mg gives me hard fullness and pre-workout a pump from hell. I get pump extra just popping 1 same day
Only thing that us slow for me as an oral is Epistane, Epistane 10 days then see it

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[epoxy]

Phera at 15mg gives me hard fullness and pre-workout a pump from hell. I get pump extra just popping 1 same day
Only thing that us slow for me as an oral is Epistane, Epistane 10 days then see it

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yeah i could barely do body weight standing calf raises they hurt so much. also definitely had a bp spike earlier today and a headache. will add in something for bp soon if it persists, and get some potassium and chellated magnesium for cramps. the magnesium used to work really well for me for cramps from anavar and these feels similar but only in my calves for some weird reason. var used to give me bad cramps in my calves and also my forearms.

did you think phera was watery or more dry like SD? there's not nearly as much information online about pheraplex - but it supposedly doesnt aromatize but a lot of people seem to say its 'watery' somehow, i dont see how that makes sense.

my workout today was sub-par, i got through most of it but didn't log it because of the shoulder issues from yesterday. i will take tomorrow off and be back on monday with some minor changes to my routine to not further injure my rotator cuff. the funny thing is i was able to do DB shoulder presses without pain today, just stop at ear level, dont lock out or go down too far, which means i cant use a whole lot of weight because it needs to be very very controlled to make sure i don't let the weight come down too far. the pain is 99% in the pressing movement in bench, everything else seems to be minor or nothing. lat raises hurt but more in a burnout kind of way, not a painful incoming injury kind of way.

 

[cmryan]

did you think phera was watery or more dry like SD? there's not nearly as much information online about pheraplex - but it supposedly doesnt aromatize but a lot of people seem to say its 'watery' somehow, i dont see how that makes sense.

I've been wondering the same thing about pheraplex as well. And there are shades of dry when comparing orals. Superdrol is watery in the sense that it makes you retain a bunch of intramuscular water. Halo and winstrol (for example) being even "dryer" in the sense that they tend to shed water.

I do believe that when it comes to orals, you can't rely on just the issue of aromatization as to whether or not you'll hang onto water. Also, anecdotes from others need to take into account if there diets were heavy on sodium or anything else that might make them hang onto water while using phera since not as many people have used it as other more popular orals.

my workout today was sub-par, i got through most of it but didn't log it because of the shoulder issues from yesterday. i will take tomorrow off and be back on monday with some minor changes to my routine to not further injure my rotator cuff. the funny thing is i was able to do DB shoulder presses without pain today, just stop at ear level, dont lock out or go down too far, which means i cant use a whole lot of weight because it needs to be very very controlled to make sure i don't let the weight come down too far. the pain is 99% in the pressing movement in bench, everything else seems to be minor or nothing. lat raises hurt but more in a burnout kind of way, not a painful incoming injury kind of way.

Are you certain it's your rotator cuff? Did you have an mri or was that something a doc/pt told you years ago? Does it hurt to get into position for a back squat? If so, it may be your labrum and not your rotator cuff.

 

[Musclemechanic76]

yeah i could barely do body weight standing calf raises they hurt so much. also definitely had a bp spike earlier today and a headache. will add in something for bp soon if it persists, and get some potassium and chellated magnesium for cramps. the magnesium used to work really well for me for cramps from anavar and these feels similar but only in my calves for some weird reason. var used to give me bad cramps in my calves and also my forearms.



did you think phera was watery or more dry like SD? there's not nearly as much information online about pheraplex - but it supposedly doesnt aromatize but a lot of people seem to say its 'watery' somehow, i dont see how that makes sense.



my workout today was sub-par, i got through most of it but didn't log it because of the shoulder issues from yesterday. i will take tomorrow off and be back on monday with some minor changes to my routine to not further injure my rotator cuff. the funny thing is i was able to do DB shoulder presses without pain today, just stop at ear level, dont lock out or go down too far, which means i cant use a whole lot of weight because it needs to be very very controlled to make sure i don't let the weight come down too far. the pain is 99% in the pressing movement in bench, everything else seems to be minor or nothing. lat raises hurt but more in a burnout kind of way, not a painful incoming injury kind of way.

I cut on phera... lol!! I have photo, all i can say is,I was as, ripped as ever and wasn't done Phera was just to kick things up. LOL

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[Musclemechanic76]

I've been wondering the same thing about pheraplex as well. And there are shades of dry when comparing orals. Superdrol is watery in the sense that it makes you retain a bunch of intramuscular water. Halo and winstrol (for example) being even "dryer" in the sense that they tend to shed water.



I do believe that when it comes to orals, you can't rely on just the issue of aromatization as to whether or not you'll hang onto water. Also, anecdotes from others need to take into account if there diets were heavy on sodium or anything else that might make them hang onto water while using phera since not as many people have used it as other more popular orals.





Are you certain it's your rotator cuff? Did you have an mri or was that something a doc/pt told you years ago? Does it hurt to get into position for a back squat? If so, it may be your labrum and not your rotator cuff.

Mine is labrum

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[epoxy]

I've been wondering the same thing about pheraplex as well. And there are shades of dry when comparing orals. Superdrol is watery in the sense that it makes you retain a bunch of intramuscular water. Halo and winstrol (for example) being even "dryer" in the sense that they tend to shed water.

I do believe that when it comes to orals, you can't rely on just the issue of aromatization as to whether or not you'll hang onto water. Also, anecdotes from others need to take into account if there diets were heavy on sodium or anything else that might make them hang onto water while using phera since not as many people have used it as other more popular orals.


Are you certain it's your rotator cuff? Did you have an mri or was that something a doc/pt told you years ago? Does it hurt to get into position for a back squat? If so, it may be your labrum and not your rotator cuff.

Entirely possible, I'm pricing an MRI this week.

 

[epoxy]

Feeling a bp spike again today, don't have a cuff here at the house to take my BP but going to go ahead and get some Carditone which usually does the trick for dropping BP by 10-15 pts.

 

[Musclemechanic76]

Feeling a bp spike again today, don't have a cuff here at the house to take my BP but going to go ahead and get some Carditone which usually does the trick for dropping BP by 10-15 pts.

Drop phera to 15mg preworkout. See if that helps BP.
Mast can cause bp in some

U on androgenic stack compared to deca...
Try these things and L-theanine too.

Are u off t3?? U could be rebounding causing a little haywire

Take 10mg Cialis instead

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[epoxy]

Drop phera to 15mg preworkout. See if that helps BP.
Mast can cause bp in some

U on androgenic stack compared to deca...
Try these things and L-theanine too.

Are u off t3?? U could be rebounding causing a little haywire

Take 10mg Cialis instead

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on 25mcg t3 still, still on phentermine too tbh never stopped it

on 6mg cialis currently, was waiting to see if i had the same side as before which was the optical neuropathy that caused my vision to blur temporarily, nothing yet which is good - can increase if needed

got some Carditone today, herbal supp blend for BP - will start tmrw.

won't drop the phera down just yet, i think i can get it under control - honestly i need to go get a new cuff so i can monitor it better might do that tomorrow too.