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Great interview Dr. O'Conner and former elite power lifter (regarding kidney failure)

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[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8HLWwiyEAI"]In the Clinic 11 Interview with Joe Ladnier - Steroids and Kidney Failure - YouTube[/ame]
 
I'm sure dude was paying real close attention to his blood pressure


and his crit and RBC's.. said EQ was his favorite drug




id be willing to be he was taking some heavy painkillers after he ruptured his platella.... probably stayed on NSAIDS at the very least throughout his career. can't imagine an injury like that not nagging you for the rest of your life.



so assuming I'm right, 25 years of steroid use, blood pressure likely through the roof, painkillers, NSAIDS, etc.


no real surprise here




holy shit just got to the part where he said his BP was 230 something.. fuck me
 
probably had untreated sleep apnea and used tons of stimulants as well :cool:
 
we need more doctors who understand weightlifters and juicers issues like the one in the video, and I dont mean like Dr. Huge...i mean medical doctors....
 
I remember Joe he was in the 220s the same time I was.
I had kidney issues back then but it was from overtightening my belt and brusing my kidneys then I always seemed to develop a kidney infection All while on a heavy cycle.
Nowadays no harsh orals and don't go to tight with the belt.
And no more powerlifting to damm old now I quilified for the nationals in 1984 but realized I was killing myself for a plastic trophy and stopped compeating.
 
Thanks for posting this vid, been watching this guy and the other anabolic doc, Rand McClain. Would be cool for both of them to meet up and do a Q&A or something like that and pick both their brains on each subject and see what they come up with.
 
I remember Joe he was in the 220s the same time I was.
I had kidney issues back then but it was from overtightening my belt and brusing my kidneys then I always seemed to develop a kidney infection All while on a heavy cycle.
Nowadays no harsh orals and don't go to tight with the belt.
And no more powerlifting to damm old now I quilified for the nationals in 1984 but realized I was killing myself for a plastic trophy and stopped compeating.

What kind of anabolics were you taking and were you also on other meds like pain killers, rec drugs, drinking etc?
 
I remember Joe he was in the 220s the same time I was.
I had kidney issues back then but it was from overtightening my belt and brusing my kidneys then I always seemed to develop a kidney infection All while on a heavy cycle.
Nowadays no harsh orals and don't go to tight with the belt.
And no more powerlifting to damm old now I quilified for the nationals in 1984 but realized I was killing myself for a plastic trophy and stopped compeating.

u think orals are more renal toxic than inj. ?
 
Back in the early 1980s we all took pretty much the same stuff test cyp, deca and as much anadrol as you could handle which for me was 100mg per day I tried to do 3 but always got nasty headachs after a few weeks.
As far as pain killers just aspirin for me usually 3 325mg tabs 3 or 4 times per day
My tolerance for pain back then was pretty high.
And I git crazy strong from 2 grams test cyp 800mg deca per wk with the 2 or 3 anadrol per day.

Two problems I'm dealing with now that I attribute to back then impared kidney function and hardening of the arteries.

So that's why nowadays I stay away from most orals and use vasodilators such as Viagra, Cialis and Citrulline Malate

We all will die from something sooner or later and I expect my kidneys to be the first thing to go on me.
 
Back in the early 1980s we all took pretty much the same stuff test cyp, deca and as much anadrol as you could handle which for me was 100mg per day I tried to do 3 but always got nasty headachs after a few weeks.
As far as pain killers just aspirin for me usually 3 325mg tabs 3 or 4 times per day
My tolerance for pain back then was pretty high.
And I git crazy strong from 2 grams test cyp 800mg deca per wk with the 2 or 3 anadrol per day.

Two problems I'm dealing with now that I attribute to back then impared kidney function and hardening of the arteries.

So that's why nowadays I stay away from most orals and use vasodilators such as Viagra, Cialis and Citrulline Malate

We all will die from something sooner or later and I expect my kidneys to be the first thing to go on me.

cmon, dont be so negative, a whole bunch of methheads, junkies, alcoholics etc live till 80...at least we take care of ourselves... Arnold and Franco havent abused any less than any of today's pros, except GH and slin and they are in their 70's...have faith....
 
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cmon, dont be so negative, a whole bunch of methheads, junkies, alcoholics etc live till 80...at least we take care of ourselves... Arnold and Franco havent abused any less than any of today's pros, except GH and slin and they are in their 70's...have faith....

did you forget arnold had a liver transplant ?
Anyway, nowadays guys use much, too much drugs, only swear by fuckin tren, massive dose of bombing water orals and slin. no condition, only fat bellies.

I regret so much 70's
 
did you forget arnold had a liver transplant ?
Anyway, nowadays guys use much, too much drugs, only swear by fuckin tren, massive dose of bombing water orals and slin. no condition, only fat bellies.

I regret so much 70's

And where did you hear that Arnold had a liver transplant?
 
did you forget arnold had a liver transplant ?
Anyway, nowadays guys use much, too much drugs, only swear by fuckin tren, massive dose of bombing water orals and slin. no condition, only fat bellies.

I regret so much 70's


Uhm.. that's a first.. yeah a credible source of Arnold having a liver transplant would be great.
 
we need more doctors who understand weightlifters and juicers issues like the one in the video, and I dont mean like Dr. Huge...i mean medical doctors....

I forget his name but the doc on muscle insider seems to be pretty knowledgeable and speaks on some decent topics.



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did you forget arnold had a liver transplant ?
Anyway, nowadays guys use much, too much drugs, only swear by fuckin tren, massive dose of bombing water orals and slin. no condition, only fat bellies.

I regret so much 70's

Arnold had a liver transplant? First I'm hearing about this.

He did, however, have open heart surgery in 1994.
 
did you forget arnold had a liver transplant ?
Anyway, nowadays guys use much, too much drugs, only swear by fuckin tren, massive dose of bombing water orals and slin. no condition, only fat bellies.

I regret so much 70's

I don't think Arnold ever had a liver transplant. :confused:

He had a weakened valve that was genetic and was replaced in his late twenties. Liver is the last thing that's going to give out for most guys in this game. Kidneys and heart will go much faster.
 

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