Growing when hit plateau

[Transformer]

Taper down is over 2-3weeks
If u have been on for 18.weeks I wud of.cum.of 6 weeks.ago 18.weeks.to.me ur body starts to not.respond in and out in 12 weeks gaining 15-20lbs a blast is what u want after 12 I start to feel burnt

Id also.not be training more than 4 days a week
Id also push calories every week if im not gaining 1-2lbs a week
That means possibly ending up on 6-7k cals a day

I wouldn't use tren for bulking

Bulking
Test
Deca
Gh
Dbol

Is enuff especially at ur stage

Id defo try to beat the log book and progressively get stronger

1 step back is 2 step forward

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[Marky Boy]

Taper down is over 2-3weeks
If u have been on for 18.weeks I wud of.cum.of 6 weeks.ago 18.weeks.to.me ur body starts to not.respond in and out in 12 weeks gaining 15-20lbs a blast is what u want after 12 I start to feel burnt

Id also.not be training more than 4 days a week
Id also push calories every week if im not gaining 1-2lbs a week
That means possibly ending up on 6-7k cals a day

I wouldn't use tren for bulking

Bulking
Test
Deca
Gh
Dbol

Is enuff especially at ur stage

Id defo try to beat the log book and progressively get stronger

1 step back is 2 step forward

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Thanks for your reply mate.

Do you think taper down over 2-3 weeks then cruise for 12 weeks and go again then?

Sent pitbull a pic, he reckons I'm 10-11%

 

[PitbullTank]

Thanks for your reply mate.

Do you think taper down over 2-3 weeks then cruise for 12 weeks and go again then?

Sent pitbull a pic, he reckons I'm 10-11%

yes, u are leaner than u thought(weird everyone usually posts they are 9-10% but are usually 13-14 lol) you have good base... i think you u should get off for a lil (maybe cruise trt) and get sensitivity back... then go back and add carbs into every meal next blast.... u need more carbs imo

 

[Marky Boy]

yes, u are leaner than u thought(weird everyone usually posts they are 9-10% but are usually 13-14 lol) you have good base... i think you u should get off for a lil (maybe cruise trt) and get sensitivity back... then go back and add carbs into every meal next blast.... u need more carbs imo

Thanks mate, adding carbs in every meal is something I want to try! Cardio at incline on a treadmill will most likely be added in too.

Yeah, I had no idea my % didn't want to post as usually people get called out on it lol.

Thanks for the reply guys, I think il taper down to 500mg next shot then 300mg and cruise about 250mgs

 

[Transformer]

It.depends how.much u weigh and use if ur very vig and running a high amont of gear then id taper on the test
500 week 1
375 week 2 /3
250 for the rest
BuT if ur doses aren't that high id Personally go straight to 250

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[LK3]

not to rehash this so many times but in real life i see so many people turning to gear or wanting gear before ever building a base naturally, this drives me crazy! youve already crossed the line so its late but shit, what happened to training for a bunch of years and then going to gear? squating 2x your bw natty? benching 1.5? dl 2x?

you can taper down or not, you have been on a long time as is, run a serious pct, i have outlined versions in plenty of other threads so search it. this will help with your sensitivity. no real reason to run 200-300mg wk at this stage for you, you would be better served by getting off completely doing heavy pct and jumping back at a lower dose.

the whole idea of running this 200-300mg a week cruise really became prominent with cfp and that was geared to advanced users who were already well over 200lbs, really when that thread started it was people talking who were 250 plus and there blasts were 750-maybe 1g test with an anabolic. now every begginer feels they need to cruise on 200-300mg to not loose there gains.

bigmike in this thread is one of those guys that learned form all this if im not mistaken and in another of his thread he mentions only using that 200-300mgs of test the past few years, do you look like him?

you dont NEED G´s to grow!

 

[Marky Boy]

not to rehash this so many times but in real life i see so many people turning to gear or wanting gear before ever building a base naturally, this drives me crazy! youve already crossed the line so its late but shit, what happened to training for a bunch of years and then going to gear? squating 2x your bw natty? benching 1.5? dl 2x?

you can taper down or not, you have been on a long time as is, run a serious pct, i have outlined versions in plenty of other threads so search it. this will help with your sensitivity. no real reason to run 200-300mg wk at this stage for you, you would be better served by getting off completely doing heavy pct and jumping back at a lower dose.

the whole idea of running this 200-300mg a week cruise really became prominent with cfp and that was geared to advanced users who were already well over 200lbs, really when that thread started it was people talking who were 250 plus and there blasts were 750-maybe 1g test with an anabolic. now every begginer feels they need to cruise on 200-300mg to not loose there gains.

bigmike in this thread is one of those guys that learned form all this if im not mistaken and in another of his thread he mentions only using that 200-300mgs of test the past few years, do you look like him?

you dont NEED G´s to grow!

I haven't went over a gram to clarify that.

And I am choosing to cruise at a lower dose as I dont see the point in coming off to PCT to make my bloods messed to jump back on..cruising on a lower dosage seems the more sensible approach IMO.

And yes I have been on a long time,
However from reading through lots of forums including here, there's been a lot
Of people on a lot longer than me on waaaay higher doses.

 

[LK3]

I haven't went over a gram to clarify that.

And I am choosing to cruise at a lower dose as I dont see the point in coming off to PCT to make my bloods messed to jump back on..cruising on a lower dosage seems the more sensible approach IMO.

And yes I have been on a long time,
However from reading through lots of forums including here, there's been a lot
Of people on a lot longer than me on waaaay higher doses.

clearly you know bettter. stay on indeffinitly, im sure its the best idea...

lol

:banghead:

 

[Marky Boy]

clearly you know bettter. stay on indeffinitly, im sure its the best idea...

lol

:banghead:

For the time being.

Thanks for your Input

 

[ryanbCXG]

clearly you know bettter. stay on indeffinitly, im sure its the best idea...

lol

:banghead:

If you're at TRT doses why do you need to pct? Your in natural range at that point and there is no guarantee you can hold high normal levels after a pct and even then it takes a month or more at best to truly get back to "normal" production many times only 500-600