Guru Ameen Alai - Every GH is bunk even if its real

[RamboStallone]

This is exactly what happens when we bring back a "GURU" who hasnt done shit in 15-20 years.

Ameen was baaarely anybody in the 90's and early 2000's....all of his knowledge or lack there of is from that ear anyways. I like his stories, but he's said a TON of shit that is just flat out incorrect and wrong.

Take eveyrhting this dude says with a grain of salt.

He was and still is nobody. The kiddies get excited by any schmoe on YouTube and social media these days.

 

[Kaladryn]

I posted on this several years ago, I did a bit of research back then and everything said it needs to be refrigerated even when in freeze-dried form to prevent degradation.

It is possible to make GH stable at room temp, and some big pharma is producing it, but most pharma GH is not made this way and requires refrigeration before reconstitution. Some say they are good for a period of time at room temp others say they are not. Freezing or heating past room temp will destroy/damage it also.

 

[lntense]

Matt Porter also made a video on GH and I'm pretty sure it was addressing Ameens video lol.

 

[UseButDontAbuse]

I posted on this several years ago, I did a bit of research back then and everything said it needs to be refrigerated even when in freeze-dried form to prevent degradation.

It is possible to make GH stable at room temp, and some big pharma is producing it, but most pharma GH is not made this way and requires refrigeration before reconstitution. Some say they are good for a period of time at room temp others say they are not. Freezing or heating past room temp will destroy/damage it also.

How do you explain most of the Generics were never refrigerated and they still produce results?

 

[brutus69]

I posted on this several years ago, I did a bit of research back then and everything said it needs to be refrigerated even when in freeze-dried form to prevent degradation.

It is possible to make GH stable at room temp, and some big pharma is producing it, but most pharma GH is not made this way and requires refrigeration before reconstitution. Some say they are good for a period of time at room temp others say they are not. Freezing or heating past room temp will destroy/damage it also.

yep. google it and you can read the pharma companies recommendations for the gh they make. most of them say keep refrigerated but indeed they have many that can stay at room temp til reconstituted. depends on the brand.
what about the stories regarding immunity buildup to generic gh tho? some studies show yes, some no....
i do know when i was using greys, my igf dropped from the first test i did to the last test i did 6 months later using the same 3iu dose, from 317 to 266. 2 different batches tho.

 

[johnjuanb1]

https://youtu.be/-2QbdB2Uezs

In this video Ameen gives his opinion about Generic and Pharma Growth Hormone.

He states that all Chinese Growth Hormone is useless, even if it's real, because vials need to be refrigerated from the moment they are made, which doesn't happen, because of shipping policies, importation time, chinese bad quality service etc GH is not refrigerated and stays on bad conditions which makes it potency lower.

He also says that 10ui Chinese Generic = 2ui Pharma.


My opinion: I used GENERIC GH and i feel it's benefits, but again i never used PHARMA, and he says that 10UI Generics = 2ui Pharma.

Give your opinion.

If this is what he believes then my respect for his opinion just plummeted!
I ran serostim at 6-7ius per day for 5 months. I’m now running Meditrope black tops. I prefer Meditrope.
Also, serostim is meant to sit at room temperature for years so I’m not sure what his deal is.

 

[tjitsu]

Anybody who calls himself a guru rofl!!!!

 

[MightyJohn]

One of his other videos he stated that over 4iu of GH will build no muscle etc...

I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT

 

[Knight9]

The bandwagon hate is strong on here. I'll tell you one thing...a lot of you talking haven't even tried pharma...so there's that. Not to mention, a lot of his information is accurate and his experience is first hand...you guys are all up in arms about his educated opinion on the subject.

I've used Seros...a great generic or two...and some shit...and there's a huge difference in pharma grade and Seros are supposedly the bottom of the heap.

 

[Wisco2]

Im no expert but my IGF1 score of 650 on generics doesn't lie!!

Im only on 3iu a day as well so what would that be with his ratio .6iu..... yeah whatever.

Im happy with the generics I get so I will continue to buy them, to each his own

 

[aphextwin]

I can't believe I was listening to him say such crazy shit…..if he had any credibility, it was flushed down the shitter.

 

[lntense]

He's still very intelligent, he maybe jumped the gun a little on this one.

 

[pesty4077]

The bandwagon hate is strong on here. I'll tell you one thing...a lot of you talking haven't even tried pharma...so there's that. Not to mention, a lot of his information is accurate and his experience is first hand...you guys are all up in arms about his educated opinion on the subject.

I've used Seros...a great generic or two...and some shit...and there's a huge difference in pharma grade and Seros are supposedly the bottom of the heap.

I used about every pharma out there, including Genos, Humatrope, Serostims and I am telling you point blank, The black tops I use are the same. Only difference there is, I am getting 15 IUs per bottle along with a super cheap price. Pharmas are way over priced. You can pay 5 times what I pay and I will get same results as any of those pharmas.

 

[suppdude]

I used about every pharma out there, including Genos, Humatrope, Serostims and I am telling you point blank, The black tops I use are the same. Only difference there is, I am getting 15 IUs per bottle along with a super cheap price. Pharmas are way over priced. You can pay 5 times what I pay and I will get same results as any of those pharmas.

And plenty of well known “gurus” and “coaches” have said the same thing. All of which are actually quite reputable. So I have no doubt this is true.


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[dale338]

BS, I use generics and my IGF-1 numbers don't lie and the visible results and growth sides don't lie either. I awaken every night with numb stiff limbs, etc. all the classic sides. I only take 2Iu's per day and skip many days here and there and I've seen the drastic results in just under 1 year now.

 

[MR. BMJ]

Yea, if the generics were fake, then we wouldn't be seeing the blood work proving them to be the real deal, including the testing we have done w/ Jano. You can't just disclude these and call them fake.

IMO, Pharma will have a higher purity then a lot of the generics (though there were some generics in the last tests that were phenomenal).

I digress though as I will never have the $$$ to use Pharm Grade, nor would I spend that kind of money on them over using the money for my kids and real life. I've known somany users that can't tell a difference except more water retention from the meditropes, which is probably from a higher dimer concentration (IMO), but with still legit HGH. These guys with water retention and elevated BP would probably do better on the grays...well, unless the medi's are showing recently better purity/dimer levels.

 

[Knight9]

Well, if your IGF levels are substantially greater on the GH you guys are using, I guess there is little argument. Do what you're comfortable with.

Laugh at Ameen if you will, but he was getting tons of Humatrope from NIH back in the early 90's with all the paperwork/literature along with it when virtually no one else had a clue. He studied all of it and applied it and had human guinea pigs with amazing results. The true problem now is the market has been flooded with fake pharma GH. Personally, I'd pay the extra for pharma if I could inject 1iu 4x daily with a little slin and get incredible IGF surge and anabolism out of it.

 

[pahlevan]

https://youtu.be/-2QbdB2Uezs

In this video Ameen gives his opinion about Generic and Pharma Growth Hormone.

He states that all Chinese Growth Hormone is useless, even if it's real, because vials need to be refrigerated from the moment they are made, which doesn't happen, because of shipping policies, importation time, chinese bad quality service etc GH is not refrigerated and stays on bad conditions which makes it potency lower.

He also says that 10ui Chinese Generic = 2ui Pharma.


My opinion: I used GENERIC GH and i feel it's benefits, but again i never used PHARMA, and he says that 10UI Generics = 2ui Pharma.

Give your opinion.

I agree with him. The Chinese stuff even if real are of lower quality or will lose efficacy on the way here. You wont save any money either as with Pharma pens they are so much more potent.
I think The Chi-coms have figured out how to fake the sides as well. Before i started Nordipens a couple of months back my IGF level was 60!! After using 2iu for 5 days My level went 253 and i didn't even take shot before the test. Im also, older so my body doesn't produce any!! I hear most can get Phrama grade for $6-8 iu vs the chines for around $2 ish. Why not use less and just use pharma?
BTW, many other compounds can increase IGF like peptides etc.. He also didnt say all chines stuff is bunk, but many are.
This is true of all gear. For eample doing 200 mg of real primo vs 600-800 UG etc..

 

[pahlevan]

One of his other videos he stated that over 4iu of GH will build no muscle etc...

I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT

Thats not what he said. he said regardless of your dose it take time for cells to split and even more time to those new cells to grow. Therefore he was suggesting using real GH over a long period of time and perhaps adding some slin to further increase IGF levels.

 

[thethinker48]

I don't think guys here are hating Pharm grade GH. If I had the extra money to spend, Would I buy pharm grade GH?

Hell yeah, but we're talking where I've invested and put money into life experiences, and then after that I'd buy it. It's not like I'm turning pro with my genetics if I suddenly introduced pharm grade GH.

So if I'm getting a 5 % better quality for 6 times the price, Is it worth it for the majority of us to drop that money?

We've done the testing, we've seen our own experiences with this stuff; there's no denying legit generics exist.

I think maybe Pro Muscle is a bit blessed to have these high quality sponsors; maybe everywhere else there's shitty rip off sources for most generics, and that's why it's become stigma to say generics are garbage.


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