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especially when eating a lot of animal proteins, aka 'meat sweats'As a VERY experienced DNP user I 100pct agree with this
especially when eating a lot of animal proteins, aka 'meat sweats'As a VERY experienced DNP user I 100pct agree with this
I'm confused by your attacking this guy for something that is demonstrably correct. He said that CR and fasting (forms of food deprivation) provide the same benefits (as in no significant difference) for autophagy in man, and this was supported by your own cited paper here. I saw his posts on the Mentzer thread; again, correct. Perhaps he and I share the same lack of tact, but what's the harm? That he's right (as you become more advanced you should cut volume given their opposite relationship and that tension drives hypertrophy foremost; that < 65% 1RM are not effective reps and serve primarily to induce fatigue), and disagrees with objectively wrong factoids?Still waiting for the data from the cited paper that you positioned to support your claim that CR and fasting are exactly the same in terms of autophagy.
This was my thinking well said also with no food in you lije you said there’ll be no water in the bowels to fall back on and I woukd bet that DNP would cause extreme cramps in an electrolyte deprived state. I know this board is generally pretty cavalier on DNP use but I’ve known guys who died on it and moderate doses ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU START KNOWING THERES A PROBLEM, fuck an ice bath or any other attempt to treat yourself when your temp gets too high and you feel like your dying call 911 and tell them the shit your on.Dude, no. It's completely unnecessary when on as strong of a drug as DNP, your metabolic activity is such that you're practically eating yourself (though dnp seems muscle sparing). You're damn near fasting when on dnp, extraneous fasting can really take a toll and greatly impact quality of life. The extra fat loss isn't worth it when you're already a bit miserable from fasting.
Don't forget that DNP can dehydrate you very easily; as can fasting, if not careful. That's the biggest concern...
If your bodyfat is not high and you ramp up your metabolism with DNP you’ll burn muscle, period, I don’t know how it’s protein sparing it’s simple it takes the governor off your mitochondria and the body speeds up and heats up so I’ve heard guys say this but I honestly don’t believe it, maybe it uncouples fat tissue well but that’s not muscle protective it just means you’ll burn more fat than muscle not burn no muscle. I will say among the monsters I’ve known DNP is not commonly used.DNP is protein sparing....
*shrug* I've used it multiple times and experienced little to no muscle loss. Is my bodyfat ever so low that it would get to the state you're inferring? I don't know, who knows where that cut off is?If your bodyfat is not high and you ramp up your metabolism with DNP you’ll burn muscle, period, I don’t know how it’s protein sparing it’s simple it takes the governor off your mitochondria and the body speeds up and heats up so I’ve heard guys say this but I honestly don’t believe it, maybe it uncouples fat tissue well but that’s not muscle protective it just means you’ll burn more fat than muscle not burn no muscle. I will say among the monsters I’ve known DNP is not commonly used.
Agreed I am not trying to argue just throwing in my 2 cents you clearly have more use than I do so I could be dead wrong*shrug* I've used it multiple times and experienced little to no muscle loss. Is my bodyfat ever so low that it would get to the state you're inferring? I don't know, who knows where that cut off is?
Just reading this
I don’t know why anyone would limit water intake with this drug
When he says “water fasting” he’s meaning water only and no food. NOT cutting out water. It is a little confusing to phrase it that way but I never thought he was referring to not drinking any water as I didn’t think anyone would be that stupid.
No water damThere is a complete fast for up to 72hrs some call it a water fast some call it a dry fast. Where nothing is consumed, even water. I've considered it to extreme and unhealthy to look further into it. But see it mentioned a lot.
See post #3, that’s not what he’s referring to though.There is a complete fast for up to 72hrs some call it a water fast some call it a dry fast. Where nothing is consumed, even water. I've considered it to extreme and unhealthy to look further into it. But see it mentioned a lot.
When he says “water fasting” he’s meaning water only and no food. NOT cutting out water. It is a little confusing to phrase it that way but I never thought he was referring to not drinking any water as I didn’t think anyone would be that stupid.
Which is not what you want to do and makes DNP even more dangerousWhen you eat carbs and get hotter, that isn’t making dnp more effective for fat loss. It’s faster ATP conversion from glucose your supplying, causing more heat.
Yea which is the problem with our “sport” ya know extreme sports do amazing and dangerous activities but a section of our crowd does dangerous things to themselves often in lieu of just hard work. I can’t see where going without food on DNP woukd be better than a perfect diet combined with crazy hard fasted cardio and a lot of posing-even if the results are equal one is hard work one is attempting to literally do less/nothing sans enduring an unhealthy act.Sounds dangerous as hell