Has anyone had awesome success with the "Push/Pull/Legs" split?

[jeroendebleser]

The benefit being fresh for a lift is to make new progress. If your biceps are capable of a 70x10 db curl, but your program never allows them to be exposed to a 70lb weight due to being pre-fatigued, it seems like that is going to limit the progress long term

But you're not calculating in the fact that with a higher frequency = faster strength gains = faster/more progress. The more often you practice lifts, the faster you become better (stronger) at them. Training movements only once a week on a 'bro-split' really isn't ideal for the genetically challenged among us. For me that would lead to basically no progress at all whereas I do progress while training everything 3 times a week.

The fact that almost none of the pro's do it (higher frequency training) is misleading since those guys will grow off of anything training-wise and needn't even put a real thought into their training routines. They'd grow mowing their lawns so to speak. You're always better off taking training advice from people that had and will always have a hard time building muscle.

Here's a great training article on higher frequency training by one of the better coaches out there:

https://www.t-nation.com/training/the-best-damn-workout-plan-for-natural-lifters

 

[Landmonster]

No, it won't.

Your muscles don't know how much a DB weighs, they only know how hard they work. By your logic the guys with the biggest arms should be curling 100+ DBs and we all know almost nobody makes it there.

Again, I say you're doing too much theorizing on how things should work and not enough real world trial and error of what actually works for you.

It is a stupid argument to say that your muscles don't know how much something weighs. No they don't know how much something weighs, but they do respond directly to the stimulus provided. and a 100 pound weight for 10 reps provides more of a stimulus than 70 lbs for 10 reps if everything else is equal


The guys with the biggest arms are capable of weights like that. It may not be wise to do, week in and week out, due to tendon stress and risk of injury and so forth

 

[TheOtherOne55]

The benefit being fresh for a lift is to make new progress. If your biceps are capable of a 70x10 db curl, but your program never allows them to be exposed to a 70lb weight due to being pre-fatigued, it seems like that is going to limit the progress long term

You'll still make progress whether you put that exercise 2nd or 5th or first....you just have to continue to keep that order. This is NOT hard to understand.

I do 2 bicep movements and I progress every week. You're right, if I moved these to BEFORE back then yes, I would also make progress. But I log my weights and order and everything. If you are legit in writing your workouts and logging your sets and reps, it doesn't matter WHERE and exercise comes in a workout.