Has the recent affordability of HGH changed your use?

[Klax]

Wanted to start a discussion on this... As recent as a decade ago, HGH was prohibitively expensive for nearly everyone. We've all heard of the guys spending $1,500 (or some other outrageous number) a WEEK to run a vial (18iu) of Serostim a day.

However, with the recent surge of affordable and available HGH from China, running a decent dose of HGH is now possible for what is essentially the cost of a monthly cell phone bill.

For years, general wisdom has pointed to ~4-6iu's being the "appropriate" dose for lipolysis when cutting, and anywhere from ~8iu's to "as much as you can afford" for trying to grow.

So with that said, with the current affordability and availability of HGH, do you approach your HGH dosing differently? When cutting, do you feel that there's any benefit to running more? Going from 4iu/day to 8/iu a day can be a difference of <$150 a month. Do you still keep doses lower for other reasons (health, side effects, etc.)? Or do you feel that "more is more" is the appropriate mindset?

Curious to hear everyone's thoughts and opinions on this subject.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

 

[Klax]

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Not sure I understand. You don't think affordability has affected people's usage of HGH in any way? Or anything of value to add to the conversation?

 

[SouthernMuscle]

I think this has been beat to death many times.

What are you hoping to gain from asking these questions.

 

[Thehulk95]

It absolutely has. Between saving for a home, student loans, and living in a city on top of all the money spent on bodybuilding including coaching, quality food, gear, health supps, etc and being in my mid 20’s I can’t justify dropping crazy amounts of money on GH, but with prices where they are I can run 10+ iu’s a day which would definitely not be happening if prices were like they used to be

 

[Klax]

I think this has been beat to death many times.

What are you hoping to gain from asking these questions.

I have seen discussions surrounding HGH dosing, but I have yet to see any discussions specifically on the topic of dose correlated to availability/affordability. In the past, people would run as much as they could afford, which in many cases was lower due to budget. For example, cutting on 4iu's because that's all they could afford. In the past, buying a couple year's worth of HGH would be the cost of a mortgage. These days, it's significantly less. Wanting to know if people are running higher doses on cuts etc. because it's more affordable, or if the mindset among the population is that it's still a "waste of money". It's a solid conversation, man.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

So what are you hoping to gain. The consensus turns out to be yes, people run more because it’s cheaper, does that then influence your own use? Or is this just because you’re curious

 

[Klax]

It absolutely has. Between saving for a home, student loans, and living in a city on top of all the money spent on bodybuilding including coaching, quality food, gear, health supps, etc and being in my mid 20’s I can’t justify dropping crazy amounts of money on GH, but with prices where they are I can run 10+ iu’s a day which would definitely not be happening if prices were like they used to be

Same here. I remember saving up for a bit to get my first order from TP and ran 2-3iu's for a few months to see what would happen. With the changed climate, I now have the ability to play around with doses and see what works. What has your experience been on higher doses? Do you think you'd lower for any reason, now that cost may not be a factor?

 

[Klax]

So what are you hoping to gain. The consensus turns out to be yes, people run more because it’s cheaper, does that then influence your own use? Or is this just because you’re curious

Hoping to have a conversation. On a forum. Where people have conversations about things. What are you trying to gain by pretending to be a mod and decide what conversations get started on a forum? It's a valid conversation. I appreciate your opinion regarding whether this is a good discussion or not, but you're free to ignore it. If you have nothing to add, there's an ass thread and a tits thread down below that are full of productive, insightful, and educational dialogue.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

Hoping to have a conversation. On a forum. Where people have conversations about things.

All true

What are you trying to gain by pretending to be a mod and decide what conversations get started on a forum?

Not pretending shit kiddo. Just questioning the reason behind the thread. You could have easily not answered my question.

It's a valid conversation. I appreciate your opinion regarding whether this is a good discussion or not, but you're free to ignore it. If you have nothing to add, there's an ass thread and a tits thread down below that are full of productive, insightful, and educational dialogue.

Thanks!

good idea for a sub topic

hEy! If FiLeT mIgNoN wAs ChEaPeR, wOuLd Ya EaT mOrE oF iT?

 

[Elvia1023]

essentially the cost of a monthly cell phone bill.

How much are you paying for your cell phone bill?

 

[Klax]

You could have easily not answered my question.

And you could have easily kept scrolling and not tried to play 21 questions about why I posted a thread. It's plainly obvious what the topic is. You're cluttering this thread - let's have some decorum. Move on, now.

 

[SouthernMuscle]

And you could have easily kept scrolling and not tried to play 21 questions about why I posted a thread. It's plainly obvious what the topic is. You're cluttering this thread - let's have some decorum. Move on, now.

 

[Klax]

How much are you paying for your cell phone bill?

A little over $300.

 

[Elvia1023]

A little over $300.

Why would you pay that for a mobile phone bill. Surely that can't be typical for the US(?) I have unlimited calls, texts and all the internet I need and I pay about $35. The US is generally cheaper for most things than here apart from energy bills.

 

[Klax]

Why would you pay that for a mobile phone bill. Surely that can't be typical for the US(?) I have unlimited calls, texts and all the internet I need and I pay about $35. The US is generally cheaper for most things than here apart from energy bills.

I have 5 people on my phone bill. And I think (maybe?) my 5G internet ($50/mo) is on there too. Let's trade out the cell-phone bill example for cost of a nice dinner date. Either way, I can run 10iu/day for ~$120/mo. Significantly cheaper than it used to be just a few years ago.

 

[gains4000]

After trying IGF1LR3 I don’t see the need to ever really push past the generic 4-6IU range. HGH -> IGF1 conversion maxes out eventually and LR3 bypasses this.

HGH I really love for the fullness, fat burning, recovery and sleep. Too much HGH also causes excessive water retention and lethargy.

 

[g.r.o.w.t.h.]

After trying IGF1LR3 I don’t see the need to ever really push past the generic 4-6IU range. HGH -> IGF1 conversion maxes out eventually and LR3 bypasses this.

HGH I really love for the fullness, fat burning, recovery and sleep. Too much HGH also causes excessive water retention and lethargy.

Go get your IGF-1 tested while taking igf-1 LR3 and tell me again that taking igf-1 LR3 bypasses hgh-igf-1 conversion. Spoiler alert: IGF-1 LR3 won’t move the igf-1 needle one bit.

 

[gains4000]

Go get your IGF-1 tested while taking igf-1 LR3 and tell me again that taking igf-1 LR3 bypasses hgh-igf-1 conversion. Spoiler alert: IGF-1 LR3 won’t move the igf-1 needle one bit.

IGF-1 LR3 bypasses GH-induced IGF-1 production and acts directly on receptors. Standard IGF-1 labs won’t reflect it, that’s just a testing limitation, not proof it’s ineffective.

 

[bigzzz]

Waiting for the hooker prices to go down

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