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Has this supplement started working or is it placebo?

The Wolf

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As some of you know I have been off the juice for a few months because I want to put a bun in the oven. I have been feeling like shit ever since. I did a solid pct. Now I have started using the supplement animal stak and I have noticed a slight increase in libido and started have a slightly harder erections. Could this longjack and other stuff inside have a positive effect or is just placebo?
 
I'm fairly certain that that stuff does increase libido, but has no effects on testosterone levels. If you're interested in boosting libido, why don't you get cialis?
 
Just looking at the ingredients ya it's working:

Mucuna Pruriens Extract-lowers prolactin and increases libido
Longjack Extract Complex (standardized for 28% bioactive glycopeptide compounds/glycosaponins) : unbinds testostersone

Avena Sativa Extract (standardized for avenacosides A & B): unbinds testosterone


Both calcium d-glucarate and dim reduce the negative estrogens (
16-hydroxy estrone and 4-hydroxy estrone) and increase the good ones ( 2-hydroxy estradiol and 2-hydroxy estrone

zinc will boost testosterone

You've also got two types of arginine and some carnitine in their as well so this will increase blood flow so ya i'm not suprised your feeling it.
 
^ CHAPS, where's your evidence that that stuff unbinds testosterone, boosts testosterone, and lowers prolactin? That seems like a load of broscience pushed by supplement companies.
 
I'm fairly certain that that stuff does increase libido, but has no effects on testosterone levels. If you're interested in boosting libido, why don't you get cialis?

Just an FYI cialis does not increase libido. It only helps with erectile disfunction.
 
Cialis will not increase libido at all, it is for Erectile dysfunction only. Humanofort increases my libido after about three weeks.
 
Why is this the only board that talks about Humanofort? I tried it years ago and did not notice a thing. I bought 3 bottles of the stuff and never could tell a difference. I was using Labrada's brand. Maybe it works for some, but maybe it's me.
 
What were you thinking it would do. If a Pearson is young and healthy, didn't take stimulants and did short cycles it probably didn't do any thing. If you did take stimulants you probably didn't take enough. Its main purpose is to regulate your adrenals and build the immune system. If you stay on cycles for long periods it helps growth factors stay higher helping gains. It also helps sleep.
 
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^ CHAPS, where's your evidence that that stuff unbinds testosterone, boosts testosterone, and lowers prolactin? That seems like a load of broscience pushed by supplement companies.


Mucuna pruriens: more testosterone, more LH, less prolactin

Exp Anim. 2000 Jan;49(1):35-8.

Effects of Eurycoma longifolia Jack (Tongkat Ali) on the initiation of sexual performance of inexperienced castrated male rats.



Ang HH, Cheang HS, Yusof AP.



We studied the effects of Eurycoma longifolia Jack, commonly known as Tongkat Ali in Malaysia, on the initiation of sexual performance and the weights of sexual accessories in inexperienced castrated male rats. The doses of 200, 400 and 800 mg/kg body weight, which were extracted from E. longifolia Jack, were orally administered to the rats twice daily for 10 days prior to the tests and continued throughout the test period. Testosterone was used as a positive control after injecting 15 mg/kg daily subcutaneously for 32 days. Results showed that E. longifolia Jack produced a dose-dependent increase in sexual performance of the treated animals, but the E. longifolia Jack groups showed lower sexual performance in mounting, intromission and ejaculation than the testosterone group. Further results also showed that E. longifolia Jack promoted the growth of both ventral prostate and seminal vesicles as compared with the control, but the growth of sexual accessories at 800 mg/kg of butanol, methanol, water and chloroform fractions of E. longifolia Jack was less than that of testosterone treated group. The present study therefore gives further evidence of the folkuse of E. longifolia as an aphrodisiac.


THE ERGOGENIC EFFECTS OF EURYCOMA LONGIFOLIA JACK: A PILOT STUDY

S. Hamzah, A. Yusof.



Department of Exercise Physiology, Sports Centre, University of Malaya, 50603 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia



Eurycoma longifolia Jack (ELJ), which contains quassinoids such as eurycomalacton, eurycomanon, and eurycomanol, has been reported to have aphrodisiac properties and to increase testosterone levels in men.1 Previous studies have established that the testosterone supplementation increases fat free mass, muscle strength, and muscle mass, which are important for physical function and athletic performance.2,3 Thus, the objective of this study was to investigate the effect of the increase in testosterone levels, obtained by administration of ELJ, on body composition and muscle strength and size in man. Fourteen healthy men performed an intense strength training programme with initial load of 60% RM (2 sets of 10 repetitions with 1 minute rest between, for 10 stations) on alternate days for five weeks. Simultaneously, seven men were randomly selected to consume 100 mg/day ELJ water soluble extract, and seven men received placebo. The intensity of the exercise was increased by 10% RM/week. Body composition, arm circumference, one repetition maximum (1 RM), and surface electromyography (sEMG) activity were measured and recorded one day before and after the five weeks of supplementation and intervention. The lean body mass of the treatment group showed a significant increment, from 52.26 (7.18) kg to 54.39 (7.43) kg (p = 0.012), but no significant changes in fat free mass were observed in the placebo group. Percentage body fat was significantly decreased in the treatment and placebo group, from 31.30 (5.48)% to 28.44 (6.43)% (p = 0.01) and from 22.83 (2.43)% to 21.33 (2.35)% (p = 0.001) respectively. The 1RM test showed a significant increase from 73.71 (16.63) to 78.71 (17.0) kg (p = 0.006) in the treatment group and from 77.29 (8.9) to 79.43 (8.8) kg (p = 0.011) in the placebo group. The increase in strength in the treatment group was larger than in the placebo group (6.78% and 2.77% respectively). The mean frequency of sEMG on the biceps in the treatment and placebo groups decreased significantly, from 121.77 (40.0) to 90.47 (64.6) µV (p = 0.012) and from 127.95 (30.9) to 98.8 (50.1) µV (p = 0.036) respectively. The treatment produced 2.92% greater reduction in electrical activity of the muscle measured at the end of the experiment compared with placebo. The mean arm circumference of the treatment group increased significantly by 1.8 cm after the supplementation, from 30.87 (1.88) to 32.67 (1.96) cm (p = 0.011), but there was no significant increase in the placebo group. The results suggest that water soluble extract of Eurycoma longifolia Jack increased fat free mass, reduced body fat, and increased muscle strength and size, and thus may have an ergogenic effect. Further investigations are warranted.



1 Ismail MTM. Proceedings paper: Asian Congress of Sexology. 2002.



2 Bhasin S, Storer TW, Berman N, et al. The effects of supraphysiologic doses of testosterone on muscle size and strength in men. N Engl J Med 1996;335:1–7.[Abstract/Free Full Text]



3 Brodsky IG, Balagopal P, Nair KS. Effects of testosterone replacement on muscle mass and muscle protein synthesis in hypogonadal men: a Clinical Research Center Study. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1996;81:3469–75.
 
I gotta run but i'll find more later, i've used the ingredients seperately, the longjack and avena sativa and all signs of increased testosterone were their, oily skin, increased aggression etc. When i take mucana puriens i notice deeper sleep, heightened sex drive, way faster recovery time after sex and it prevents any puffiness i'd get in my chest from tren, all the same effects i get from cabergoline just not as potent.
 
I guess lots of people, myself included have always wrongly underestimated these natural test boosters...
 
Why is this the only board that talks about Humanofort? I tried it years ago and did not notice a thing. I bought 3 bottles of the stuff and never could tell a difference. I was using Labrada's brand. Maybe it works for some, but maybe it's me.

Buy it from Emeric. He is the go to man for Humanofort, pretty sure he owns the rights to it here. His works for me.
 
I always take ZMA at night and DAA with my first meal. This always helps with the test production when off.
 
I always take ZMA at night and DAA with my first meal. This always helps with the test production when off.

So Animal Stak which contains ZMA would then best be taken at night time? I took it in the mornings or half hour before a workout.
 
I only found a very few brands of humanofort? Is Emric's stuff the best around?
 
I've heard lots of good stuff about Fitness Enterprises Humanofort.
 
I guess lots of people, myself included have always wrongly underestimated these natural test boosters...

It's all in the extract, for instance i can walk into a local supplement store and buy some green tea pills and not feel shit, but instead i order green tea that is standardized to 98% polyphenols >75% catechin , >50% EGCG and i feel warmth off of one 500mg cap.
 
ZMA is best taken before bed on an empty stomach. Also, schedule it away from calcium intake as calcium inhibits the uptake of zinc.
 

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