Tbh I think HCG will give you the equivalent of ~100mg/wkI would definitely never keep gains that way. Also, here’s the thing….the OP is a functioning autistic who doesn’t want to have children. I think we can safely assume from this that a good part of the reason is he has a 50 percent chance of passing this along to any children he sires. So why on earth would we want to attempt to keep his hpta functioning, and there’s no fucking way on earth bridging with hcg will help him keep his gains as well as just running 1-200 mgs of test would.
No way in hell. I’ve been using AAS for nearly 20 years now and there’s no way. And I used a shitload of hcg in the beginning when cycling. I have 3 kids to prove itTbh I think HCG will give you the equivalent of ~100mg/wk
No way in hell. I’ve been using AAS for nearly 20 years now and there’s no way. And I used a shitload of hcg in the beginning when cycling. I have 3 kids to prove it
I've found it matches that almost exactly. For me, that's roughly the limit. I was using 12,000 iu a week of hcg for a short time and it got my test levels to ~1,100 but that is a crap load of hcg, of course. My current dose seems to have me quite similar to 100mgs of test.Tbh I think HCG will give you the equivalent of ~100mg/wk
I agree throw in a true TRT dosage of 70-100mg testosterone.But why bother if he’s gonna use forever and has no need to recover hpta?
its a great thought but 100mg testosterone is still going to let your body re-sensitize to the higher levels. It works very well. Absolutely no reason to drop test completely.Wow guys. Great discussion. I really appreciate it.
I've wondered if just doing a TRT bridge might do the same thing. My thought was getting rid of the exogenous testosterone would help me get better gains when I went back at it.
Theoretically, I think heavyhitter is right if kids are no concern just drop to a true or low trt. I literally go to a level to get my blood test levels at around 500-700 for at least some of the year.Wow guys. Great discussion. I really appreciate it.
I've wondered if just doing a TRT bridge might do the same thing. My thought was getting rid of the exogenous testosterone would help me get better gains when I went back at it.
You’re getting activation of pathways that have been “sleeping” for awhile on heavy steroid cycle. Lots of good things are synthesized other than testosterone by our bodies and HCG wakes those up.Theoretically, I think heavyhitter is right if kids are no concern just drop to a true or low trt. I literally go to a level to get my blood test levels at around 500-700 for at least some of the year.
In practical purposes though for me, I'm experiencing better health markers with the same testosterone bloods levels but using HCG instead of test. Maybe it's just a fluke.
From a "gains" perspective, dropping to a true or low trt should yield the same results as coming all the way off and doing the hcg thing.
The other thing is I feel amazing on the hcg...better than I did on 100mgs of test so I have to be honest that I'm quite conflicted at the moment.
IIRC, the human testicles naturally produce 7-12mg testosterone per day. With HCG, they produce higher than normal levels. 15mg/day would be 105mg/wk. And that's without an ester weight.No way in hell. I’ve been using AAS for nearly 20 years now and there’s no way. And I used a shitload of hcg in the beginning when cycling. I have 3 kids to prove it
You’re getting activation of pathways that have been “sleeping” for awhile on heavy steroid cycle. Lots of good things are synthesized other than testosterone by our bodies and HCG wakes those up.
I backfill with progesterone and pregnenolone and it achieves the same thing for me basically add HCG without the aromatization. If I rub HCG I have to run estrogen control drugs and I hate those.Yeah I believe you are correct and this is likely convincing me to stay on some level of hcg for good with my trt. I spend most of the year on 100-140mgs a week with a bump to 200-300 here and there but I've been on test for a full decade until now. Heck last time I came off was also to have a kid lol.
yeah good idea thanks man!I backfill with progesterone and pregnenolone and it achieves the same thing for me basically add HCG without the aromatization. If I rub HCG I have to run estrogen control drugs and I hate those.
This is exactly why I just started running HCG this week after avoiding it for over 12 years of TRT. I NEVER want to have kids and don't care about the size of my balls so I always stayed away especially because of the risk of aromatization. But from a lot of the reading I've done its these secondary pathways that can really elevate your mood that have been neglected by me for a while now. HCG seems to be more than just about ball size while blasting or rebooting endogenous Test while bridging if you come off. Apparently its still very beneficial for your HPTA to remain active even if you are getting exogenous Test elsewhere.You’re getting activation of pathways that have been “sleeping” for awhile on heavy steroid cycle. Lots of good things are synthesized other than testosterone by our bodies and HCG wakes those up.
This is exactly why I just started running HCG this week after avoiding it for over 12 years of TRT. I NEVER want to have kids and don't care about the size of my balls so I always stayed away especially because of the risk of aromatization. But from a lot of the reading I've done its these secondary pathways that can really elevate your mood that have been neglected by me for a while now. HCG seems to be more than just about ball size while blasting or rebooting endogenous Test while bridging if you come off. Apparently its still very beneficial for your HPTA to remain active even if you are getting exogenous Test elsewhere.
Thank you for including your test numbers. It really helps me going forwardI've found it matches that almost exactly. For me, that's roughly the limit. I was using 12,000 iu a week of hcg for a short time and it got my test levels to ~1,100 but that is a crap load of hcg, of course. My current dose seems to have me quite similar to 100mgs of test.
Most hcg is made from the urine of pregnant Indian(not American) women. I’m betting due to covid getting the materials is likely harderi have never had a problem finding us pharmacy grade hcg (scripted) until this week. now, i am told by my doc it can no longer be compounded. so its either UG labs or nothing i suppose.