HCG ED?

[path2greatness]

I am on Dr. administered TRT but unfortunately my doc does not believe in hcg or aromatase inhibitors. I am on a compounded 10% cream which does not on its own raise estrogen outside the bounds of normal and I feel good. However as I am 25 yrs old I am VERY concerned with preserving my fertility function and fully believe in the SWALE protocol of consistent HCG administration for testicular function as well as to provide some hormones that are produced by the testis but not replaced with exogenous testosterone administration. When I adminsiter HCG at 250 iu eod or e3d I can feel that my estrogen spikes a little to high and my libido is temporarily absent. I have tried arimidex and aromasin for periods of time and both suppress estrogen noticeable but I am definitely an over responder to AIs as a 10th of a milligram of arimidex is enough to do the trick almost to well (judging by my libido). Aromasin on the other hand when used in amounts of around (I'm splitting a pill) 10-25mg is FAR to strong. and when using smaller amounts it seems to pass out of my system a little fast and my mood/water retention/libido seems to fluctuate(it does have a 27 hr half life compared to 72 hours for armidex). These problems are compound by the fact that both medications are hard to measure out in such small doses. Now on to the HCG question. I seem to always find that HCG is recommended in eod or e3d dosage protocols. My question is why couldnt someone like me administer 100-150iu ed in the hopes of having more consistent levels and perhaps less estrogen conversion? Is there any reason that this would be ill advised? And please don't tell me to get another doc. I am short on funds/time and most importantly patience with medical community. If I ever switched docs it would only be to see Dr. Crisler in Michigan but unfortunately traveling to him is not possible at the moment. Thank you in advance for your responses.

 

[path2greatness]

bump?

 

[VallhallaOrBust]

SWALE once prescribed me 100IU of HCG every day. It is the ideal way to go if you don't mind dosing ED.

 

[Newman]

IIRC, the 1/2 life of HCG is about 3.5 days, which is why they normally recomend HCG E3D.

 

[path2greatness]

Thanks for the responses gents, its nice to hear the feedback. I'm going to go ahead and try it for awhile. If I still feel like an AI is needed then I might have to get some liquid aromasin because it would be easier to dose in small quantities.

 

[Newman]

Now on to the HCG question. I seem to always find that HCG is recommended in eod or e3d dosage protocols. My question is why couldnt someone like me administer 100-150iu ed in the hopes of having more consistent levels and perhaps less estrogen conversion?

I'm not sure I understand your question correctly. Are you asking whether dosing 100-150 IUs of HCG ED would provide more consistant hormone levels and less estrogen conversion?

If so, then I think the answer is 1/2 yes & 1/2 no.

AFAIK, using HCG throughout a cycle will keep your nuts pumping natty test, but won't prevent aromatization of test, whether we're referring to natty test or artificial test.

As a rule of thumb, I think that HCG dosage (in IUs) is generally numerically equal to the mg of test/AAS used. For example, we often see doses of 500IUs of HCG used E3D and AAS doses of say 1000mg test, or 500mg test & 500mg deca etc. So the 2 weekly shots of HCG are numerically equal (1000UIs - 1000mg) to the weekly dosage of AAS.

So, whatever your current TRT dosage is, you could probably get away with using 1/2 that amount of HCG E3D. For example, if you are applying enough TRT cream to equal 100mg test per week, then two shots of 50 IUs of HCG would be a reasonable dosage.