HCG & TRT

[ChemJr.]

Hey guys, I know this is a rather exhausted topic so feel free to post links to other threads but I was just wondering your guys take on HCG with trt. The reason I have started is because the boys shriveled-up far too much, that's after almost a decade of trt and the occasional dose of nandrolone which I know is very suppressive. DHEA brought them back a little bit but not nearly like HCG has before. I just could never stick with it before because estrogen side effects but I never used to use anti estrogens now I use every once in awhile as needed so maybe I will just bump that up to twice a week at 6.25 mg. Any input and comments are welcome. Also 200 mg per week and sometimes I don't even reach that. Playing around with subcutaneous everyday as it seems to keep levels feeling much more natural and supposed to be less conversion. I guess that's about it. Just wondering experiences things to look out for and how to possibly mitigate side effects like estrogen which I think exemestane will do just fine, and mood swings which for some reason same to start happening with me on week 2 on so any input on that would be great. Thanks again and take care. PS - it's amazing how fast this stuff makes a visible difference. I'm talking a matter of 24 to 36 hours.

 

[ChemJr.]

If a moderator would like to move this to the HRT forum by all means please do. I just wasn't thinking.

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[Swifto]

You shouldnt have estrogenic issues on TRT + HCG + Aromasin IMO.

20mg subq Test Enan per day, HCG twice per week at 250-500ius and 12.5mg Aromasin daily or EOD should be fine.

DIM at 100-200mg per day is another route.

 

[frink71]

You shouldnt have estrogenic issues on TRT + HCG + Aromasin IMO.

20mg subq Test Enan per day, HCG twice per week at 250-500ius and 12.5mg Aromasin daily or EOD should be fine.

DIM at 100-200mg per day is another route.

Is that much aromasin common for that level of trt?

 

[rmtt]

You shouldnt have estrogenic issues on TRT + HCG + Aromasin IMO.

20mg subq Test Enan per day, HCG twice per week at 250-500ius and 12.5mg Aromasin daily or EOD should be fine.

DIM at 100-200mg per day is another route.

I just finished my small blast, and back on TRT for me which is around 12mg IM Test E pinned daily. Only running 200 mg DIM with it, and will be having blood drawn in 6-8 weeks.

But at my prescribed TRT dose when my doctor was involved, I only used DIM and never had to use an AI.

HCG was something I didn't do either, but I really never seen any issues at the dose I was on. Also at my age there are no kids in the future works....and I had the "Snip" done years ago.

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[lcsulla]

You shouldnt have estrogenic issues on TRT + HCG + Aromasin IMO.



20mg subq Test Enan per day, HCG twice per week at 250-500ius and 12.5mg Aromasin daily or EOD should be fine.



DIM at 100-200mg per day is another route.

DIM? I looked it up and google said it was an anti-cancer supp? Is that the one?


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[buck]

I also take HCG to keep the P450 pathway open so it can move more cholesterol down stream for other uses.

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

^ ditto, buck

I think swifto's recommendation is real heavy on aromasin....I would go tons lighter or see if I could get away dropping HCG/test dose so I wouldn't need an AI at all.

That's the situation I am in....if I absolutely need some estrogen control I will add nolvadex 10mg 2-3x/week and see if I can keep estrogen under 35 with dosage control of test/HCG. Strongly prefer that than nasty aromasin.

 

[makaveli25]

Can proviorion be used in this situation?

 

[MinuteMaid]

^ ditto, buck

I think swifto's recommendation is real heavy on aromasin....I would go tons lighter or see if I could get away dropping HCG/test dose so I wouldn't need an AI at all.

That's the situation I am in....if I absolutely need some estrogen control I will add nolvadex 10mg 2-3x/week and see if I can keep estrogen under 35 with dosage control of test/HCG. Strongly prefer that than nasty aromasin.

Why Nasty? I love Aromasin

 

[Matsuo Munefusa]

Why Nasty? I love Aromasin

I used to love it too but that shit did me wrong (lol sounds like I'm talking about an ex which I kinda am, my ex-drug).

It just progressively dried my joints out more and more and kept crashing estrogen despite lowering dose. I can't take any now without it killing off my aromatase enzyme and tanking estrogen.

That took about 7 years to occur....I was very lean the whole 7 years so I don't know if I should have been taking micro doses for the 100-350mg test I fluctuated using per week.

 

[earch]

I need about 10mg of aromasin / exemestane everyday when on a TRT dose of 200mg per week. Its on the higher side but everyone is a bit different with what they need and how they respond, I got gyno flare ups bad on 200mg with just 5-6mg aromasin everyday when I resumed cruising after some serious time off.

Anyway, HCG, on a cruise/trt, my thoughts.

I do not like it and I have dine it. Its great for feel good factor (maybe), increasing loads (maybe), and keeping balls down and not much else in my experience, here is why.... I used a heavy hCG blast before starting clomid and nolva to come off after several years on when I needed to get off all gear and it really helped me restart natty production. For those reasons I would not want to risk desensitizing my body to hCG if I needed to come off again for whatever reason. Basically, for me, the only time I would use hCG would be for coming off (I mostly cruise but blast occasionally) or if I wanted to try and have kids. I do not think hCG is worth using if on TRT or cruising. Those are just my thoughts based on readings and experience.